Adding 2nd Propane Tank - Fiberglass RV


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Old 06-21-2003, 02:49 PM   #1
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Adding 2nd Propane Tank

My "new" 1996 scamp deluxe has only one propane tank. I'd like to add another one (you always run out at the most inopportune times...). Does the trailer have to have a whole new tongue put on it, or can the existing one be modified to hold 2 tanks? Michele
PS--I'm ALL ready to go! (yeah, I know, it's taken long enough...:wak)..... got the water system figured out, spent $1,000+ on hoses, power cord, adaptors, wiring, and "stuff," passed the final exam on hookup and pulling :wine (with son as coach..). Now need to work on the dreaded "backup":omy. Final big obstacle is going to be coming up with an ungodly sum of $$ for state sales tax when I switch the title :weep After all the money I've spent on hoses, cords, adaptors, wiring, and everything else, this is getting to be a pretty expensive hobby, but oh well. Worth it I hope....:huh
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Old 06-21-2003, 09:07 PM   #2
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Backing

With your hand on the bottom of the steering move your hand in the direction you want the trailer to go..

My translation.

Start with small movements to see what the trailer is doing.

If you get crossed up just pull forward and start over.

With a little practice you wlll be backing like a pro.

You can put two propane bottles on the tongue. Most late Casitas come that way. Just a pretty simple mount and an auto change over regulator.You probably could change the existing regulator from bottle to bottle.
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Old 06-22-2003, 06:37 AM   #3
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Plenty of gas!

Hi Michele,
Not to worry! One propane tank lasts for a remarkably long time!
I'm always amazed when we come back from a two week trip and I take my two tanks to be filled. So far, every time, my propane station always says ''One of these tanks is full. Why did you bring it in?''
Also, there is a little $3 LP Level Indicator that you can stick on the side of your tank to show you the level of gas in the tank. Those are available at most RV stores, campingworld.com, camperschoice.com, etc. Sounds like something that you and I both could use, huh?;)

http://www.camperschoice.com/cgi-bin/more_...=&group_id=2043
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Old 06-22-2003, 06:04 PM   #4
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one tank does last a lot time

I left with 13 pounds in a 20 lb tank 14 days on the road . about 7 days with reefer on gas Furnace ran every night . I ran out of gas After i got back home.
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Old 06-22-2003, 06:42 PM   #5
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Propane Tanks and backing up....

Thanks for the great advice! $3 is a lot better than having to have my trailer re-done for a 2nd tank! I don't expect to be taking long trips in it anyway. My son told me a lot of service stations will just fill the tank and you don't have to trade it in... is that right? That way it would be no different than filling the gas tank of your car.

As for the backing up, I got another piece of advice from a friend of mine--a veteran rv'er... which is to put a small piece of colored electrical tape on the trailer, centered above the hitch, another centered on the rear window directly above the hitch, and line them up when backing up. I plan to try that one. Michele
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Old 06-22-2003, 07:19 PM   #6
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Filling your Propane Tank

Michele, I'm sure there are a couple places there in Hibbing that can/do fill propane tanks. I'm sure Ferrellgas (in Hibbing) will fill your trailer's tank. As for servcie stations doing that...not many around this "neck of the woods" altho' I know Lucky Seven (on Hoover Road in Virginia) just started filling propane tanks (if you can ever get one of the cashier clerks to help). I fill my tanks up at Range Coop LP (also on Hoover Road in Virginia). Most of the Holiday Stations up here on "Da Range" exchange propane tanks but it costs maybe 10 bucks more than a standard refill. I'd recommend checking with Ferrellgas in Hibbing and just have them fill you tank when it's getting low.
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Old 06-22-2003, 08:48 PM   #7
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propane tank exchange

It comes as a surprise to read of exchanging tanks at a service station rather
than just having the tank filled. I have not run into a service station in
Alberta where you can exchange the tank - if they carry propane (and many do)
they just refill your own tank provided the date stamped on the tank is not
more than 10 years old. After that time the tank must be re-certified.

The Co-op in Calgary only charges for the gas they put in it, so if you bring
it in half full, you only pay for 1/2 a tank. Also I don't think there is any
restriction on the type of valve required on the tank, whether it is just the
standard barbeque valve or the new OPD type.
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Old 06-22-2003, 09:24 PM   #8
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Propane Tanks

Thanks for the tips, Rob. I have a Lucky-7 right down the street and will check there first. I know it costs about $10 more to exchange tanks, so it seems way more practical to find a place that will refill. I'm going to check the campingworld website for a gauge thing.... Michele
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Old 06-22-2003, 11:35 PM   #9
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OPD Valves

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Orginally posted by Rock MacRaeAlso I don't think there is any *
restriction on the type of valve required on the tank, whether it is just the *
standard barbeque valve or the new OPD type.
Rock, in the U.S. it has been illegal since since early last year for the propane guy to fill your LPG tank unless it is equipped with the new OPD (Overfill Protection Device). OPD valves were mandated on newly manufactured tanks starting back in 1998, so most newer trailers already had them. (Applies to tanks from 4 lbs. to 40 lbs. capacity)

That being said, in a few exchange places you may be able to trade an old tank for one with the new valve. I asked about that recently at Wal-Mart when I saw a person doing just that. The associate said that their supplier just takes the old tank, retrofits it and eats the cost of the new valve. As you say, an exchange costs about $10 more than a fill of gas, so they probably can afford to do that occasionally. I don't know whether this method prevails in other areas. I imagine most everyone in the U.S. has changed out their old tanks/valves by now.
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Old 06-23-2003, 06:05 AM   #10
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Michele,

If you have your tank refilled, you'll have to remove it from the trailer first. At least that's true wherever I've had one refilled.

It's easy to do. Turn off the valve. Unscrew the hose from the tank. Loosen the clamp and turn it out of the way. Lift the tank and set it on the ground. Reverse the process to re-install the tank.

If the fitting screwed into the tank takes a wrench, the threads are left-handed, turn to the right to loosen. If there is a hand knob, the threads are right handed, turn to the left to loosen.

If the valve handle is triangular, the tank is equipped with the new OPD valve.

Here's the $CW URL for the tank gauge: Gauge
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Some people carry a small disposable tank for a spare and change it out with the big one when it runs out to get you to the next refill place. Haven't tried it. I'm not a heavy propane user.
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Old 06-23-2003, 09:45 AM   #12
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Michele,

Regarding your first question, a fellow Scamp owner will have to answer but you probably don't have to modify the mounting to add a second tank. If you have room where the single tank sits for two tanks side-by-side, it's simple.

You'll need a different hold-down that clamps two tanks. You'll need a new regulator that has two input lines. One kind automatically switches when the first tank is empty. You'll need a second hose to connect from the tank to the regulator.

Can one of you Scamp owners with dual tanks post a picture for Michele?

Another possibility is to call Scamp, they're just down the road from you.
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Old 06-23-2003, 09:58 AM   #13
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This is all pretty good advice, Michele. I've done it both ways: had a single, 20 lb. tank that I thought took forever to run empty (the trailer had no furnace); and now have the dual 20 lb. tank setup that Morgan described.

I gotta say I prefer the dual setup, for the peace of mind of not running out... and our current trailer does have the furnace, so we do use a bit more propane (esp. when we boondock in the mountains).

You ought to at least call Scamp and investigate what it would take to get the dual tank system installed. It might not be that expensive or much of a hassle.

Then, at least, if you decide to keep just the single tank, you'd know it was/is really the best option for you.
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Old 06-23-2003, 10:44 AM   #14
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Hey!!

Thanks for posting!

Just remind me to find my adaptor and put it in the trailer along with a 1 Lb disposable propane bottle.

There, it is done! This will take care of "emergencies" :)

<img src=http://www.fiberglassrv.com/board/uploads/3ef72039d9ebfadapteur.jpg/>

For the little bit I use propane, I would not put an second tank. With this adaptor, I feel pretty safe anyway and I prefer to save that extra 30 pounds or so for other cargo.


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