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Old 01-04-2013, 04:47 PM   #15
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Apparently somebody has, but don't be surprised when you crack the vinyl, or get stress creases, etc., in it.

As the old adage goes "Why is there never enough time to do the job right the first time, but always enough time to do it the second time?".
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Wow... didn't know one could lay vinyl on carpeting .
I too am curious as to why one would be wanting to do this too.

Definitely something I would not do, for any reason. I do home building and renovations for a living, and install many 1,000's of feet of flooring a year, and would never consider this.

Vinyl flooring gets much of its protective strength from a polyurethane (or equivalent) coating. The flexure allowed from leaving carpet underneath would in time damage this coating.

I would be willing to bet that the manufacturer would not warranty the product installed with carpet under either.

I am a bit surprised though to even hear of carpet glued down in a trailer. Just something I have never seen. We do cover the most of our floor with throw rugs.
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Old 01-04-2013, 04:56 PM   #17
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From all the research I've done (here and elsewhere), the Allure flooring seems to be a great, cost effective choice. Before we bought our Scamp, we saw one that had had Allure just put in it and it looked great. The owner said it was easy and fast to do, so I'm a believer. We've run into two problems: what color and what direction?

The color we can figure out if we get some samples, but the direction is a topic upon which we have started to disagree. In an attempt to get unbiased responses, I'm not going to hint which direction is my choice so fire away.

We have a 16-foot Scamp with the toilet on the side, a bench/bunk on the front, and a large dinette/double bed on the back. Which way should we lay the planks of the Allure? Should we lay them going from front to back or side to side? We've only seen one trailer in person, so advice is welcome. Oh, and it doesn't have to be objective at all.
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I am a bit surprised though to even hear of carpet glued down in a trailer. Just something I have never seen. We do cover the most of our floor with throw rugs.
Oh, my scamp was glued like you wouldn't believe. A DA wouldn't touch it with 36 grit. I ended up with flap discs on a 5" angle grinder, and that took a long time, even. Under the cabinets I used an angle die grinder.
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Our 2 cents. Lengthwise. Might sweep out easier, has a bit of a groove. I think you would have less waste. The Allure planks (if they haven't changed since we put it in kitchen) have glue strips on long side and one on short side. You should look over how it fits together before doing it. In my kitchen I have one small spot that we pieced without the end overlap glue. I don't like that spot.

If the hallway is so narrow that you can get two lengths out of one plank maybe you could get by with running it from bath to door, but that just feels wrong to me.

Next gathering I'll have to see how most people do it.

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.....I'm not going to hint which direction is my choice so fire away.
I would do it at a 45° angle, leading towards the main area from the door.
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Oh, my scamp was glued like you wouldn't believe. A DA wouldn't touch it with 36 grit. I ended up with flap discs on a 5" angle grinder, and that took a long time, even. Under the cabinets I used an angle die grinder.
Sounds like it was down real good. Is this common with Scamp?

Did you try an oscillating multi-tool? They work wonders scraping up stuff that is glued down hard. The only issue I have found was when the going got tough, the glue heated up a bit, and got sticky.
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I did two trailers, one lengthwise and the other cross wise. The Crosswise was a better fit and less waste. Joining two of these 36" long sections lengthwise does not give a good tight solid joint as the shorter crosswise method does does. The shorter pieces stayed tight, the longer pieces would separate a little occasionally with temperature/humidity swings. Not enough to come apart, but the joint became visible. If installed correct, you will not see any joints.
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I would do it at a 45° angle, leading towards the main area from the door.


Sounds like it was down real good. Is this common with Scamp?

Did you try an oscillating multi-tool? They work wonders scraping up stuff that is glued down hard. The only issue I have found was when the going got tough, the glue heated up a bit, and got sticky.
Yep, glue was tougher than the wood, it just wanted to head into the floor. I dunno what glue they used, but I've never seen anything like it. It was tougher than some aircraft epoxy.

Tapping it with a chisel just resulted in lifting a layer of wood, also. Evil stuff. Respirator, and 3 hours of work to level out the floor in the scamp. I used a floor scraper to take the carpet pad off first. Have to be careful not to hit glue globs too hard, it'll rip up the wood.
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Old 01-04-2013, 06:05 PM   #23
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Jared's post about the glue worries me; our scamp has carpet in some places and then cheap, cheap, cheap vinyl flooring elsewhere. I can't remember, but I think the vinyl might be on top of the carpet. Oh well, sounds like the hardest part, as with most projects, is going to be the prep work.

As far as the direction of planks goes, here's what I have:

Nancy says to do this, right?

Front
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Back

Jim says to do this, right?

Front
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Back

And cpaharley says to do this, right?

Front
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Back

I would add photos but I don't know how. Do I need to upload photos first to be able to include them in these posts?
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45* would be to much of a pain to make it worth it in a camper, to me.

I think harley might have a good point about going that direction. I did mine the other way, and it is a pain to get your cuts square enough. It also wanted to lift more on those ends. If mine was going the other direction, and then had trim on it, maybe it would have worked.
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For photos, you can use the paper clip to the right of the smiley face in the reply box.

You can also upload them to youtube, etc., and then copy/paste the image link.

I do the youtube route, personal preference.
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Old 01-04-2013, 06:17 PM   #26
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Testing these photos.

The first thought is the 45 degree angle. It might be a pain to do all of this, waste would be higher, but it might make the area look bigger. Long edges might also have a tendency to peel up.

Another option is to do it "lengthwise" like the other photo. Problems with this is that the edges are prone to coming up, right? Another thought would be to go 90 degrees from this which would make everything stick together better. Does it matter that I'm planning on using some kind of trim?
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I should point out again, mine wasn't allure. It was the $.99 lowes stuff, so the ends on the allure could be just fine...
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I have Allure in my kitchen. They look like one-foot-square tiles so, it doesn't matter which way you go ( except that you want to reduce the number of cuts ). If your pattern is supposed to look like wood planks, then you need to care about the direction. For all my planning, I still ended up with small narrow pieces at the door to a bathroom. Too wide to cover with a transition and so narrow that the tiles don't want to stay in place.
For such a small area, I'd go with roll vinyl. Make a pattern with paper and cut the one-piece vinyl to shape.
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