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Old 03-11-2013, 01:56 PM   #1
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Had decided just to leave the old Delta on my Scamp as I've been told it should work just as well as a new one - but since the tangle with the phone line popped it off I'm back to thinking about it again! The antenna itself landed on the grass and looks fine (tho a little old and tired) but the plastic inside the trailer broke. Not sure if I can get it back together and I understand they don't make them any more. Scamp now uses the Winetenna Boomerang Amplified antenna and I also looked at the Winegard Roadstar 1500. Not sure which would be better or easier to install in the old spot without to much wrangling. Any thoughts on brands or on the confusion of digital versus analog antennas - if there really is any?
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Old 03-11-2013, 02:13 PM   #2
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I have an old delta I pulled off I think I can find the knobs if you want them. The delta seals can go bad and water leaks down the center of the shaft and you can't get parts any longer. I replaced my delta with a roadstar 1500.
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Old 03-11-2013, 03:00 PM   #3
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Has anyone had any luck with any of the paper thin digital antennas like the Mohu? It kind of looks like a white mud flap that you hang in the window.
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Old 03-11-2013, 03:39 PM   #4
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I have two different Winegard antennas. Last year I bought a Winegard Hideaway antenna, it is in a tube, telescopes up and 4 metal loops fold out. It is made to attach to the side or rear wall of a camper. I didn't want to make holes in the trailer shell, and with Uhaul having an inner shell to further complicate things, I made an apparatus to mount it on the bumper. It works good, and reception of course is related to your location. Recently we were at a Camping World store and I bought a Winegard Rayzor, which is a flat thin antenna that attaches with suction cups. So at a campground in SC I decided to do a comparison test. The Hideaway would pull in 13 channels by running a channel scan on the TV, the Rayzor pulled in only 10 channels, but the extra 3 that the Hideaway got were not watchable. The Rayzor I had stuck on to the outside of the camper, but when I went back out it had fallen off and was laying on the ground. Reason for falling off,?? maybe because I had waxed the trailer, I don't know, but reception laying on the ground was real good. The Rayzor comes with only two suction cups, probably should have four. So for the results of the test, I think the Rayzor had as good or better reception as the Hideaway, and there is no installation issues. On the other hand if I had stuck it on the inside of a window I would have had a coil of wire to deal with inside the camper. I have a short coil of antenna wire inside the hatch where the electric cord is on the side of the trailer, and connect that to the Hideaway antenna, or to a campground cable TV connector if they have cable available.
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Old 03-11-2013, 03:42 PM   #5
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Has anyone had any luck with any of the paper thin digital antennas like the Mohu? It kind of looks like a white mud flap that you hang in the window.
Other than the little bit of height you gain from being on the roof it should work fine. Fiberglass doesn't impede the signal so it doesn't need to be outside.
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Old 03-11-2013, 04:44 PM   #6
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Our Kodiak has one of those non-adjustable antennas with booster. It's worthless. A couple of winters ago our friends who were several miles farther from the tv stations picked a lot more with their old crank up model than we did. Don't know if they're all as bad as ours.
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I figured it had to be too good to be true! Unless you're camped next to a TV station, of course.
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Old 03-11-2013, 05:30 PM   #8
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Antennas are not digital. The big difference for antenna systems between the old analog TV era and the new digital TV world is that more stations are now likely to be in the UHF frequency band, so antennas should be designed for both VHF and UHF; traditionally, RV antennas were often effective only for VHF. In addition, there are a lot more systems which incorporate an amplifier with the antenna, and some of them even have a signal strength meter. The point of having a tool to show signal strength is that in the old analog system you could just watch how snowy the picture was, and now in digital it is not so easy to see when you have pointed the antenna for best signal.
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Old 03-11-2013, 07:05 PM   #9
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Thanks Eddie but I'm thinking a new antenna is going to be the best idea - for exactly the reasons you replaced yours! And since it's already off....
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Antennas are not digital. The big difference for antenna systems between the old analog TV era and the new digital TV world is that more stations are now likely to be in the UHF frequency band, so antennas should be designed for both VHF and UHF; traditionally, RV antennas were often effective only for VHF.
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I stand corrected, and rightfully so. Having spent half my working life in the CATV industry in an area which has had cable since 1953 owing to the surrounding hills and lack of broadcast TV stations for 60 miles in any direction, I recognize the difference. I was trying to couch my description in terms that most people could relate to. Do a search for "digital tv antenna" on Amazon and see what you come up with. That said, Amazon generally doesn't give antenna gain specs and I was look for an experiential evaluation. I realize that a dipole with reflectors is going to have much greater gain but there is a big trade off in physical size. I am also aware that signals in the UHF band are essentially "line of sight" and therefore topography is going to play a bigger role than antenna gain. Although physical size of an antenna is significantly smaller in UHF range than in the VHF range, the standard measurement for digital UHF reception is taken at an antenna elevation of 30 ft above ground. I'm not about to rig a 30 foot mast on a 15 foot egg to watch TV. I think I'll just stick with my DVD player or read a book Thanks for clarifying the issues.
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At $420 this is a bit expensive, but I have thought of using something like this to mount a YAGI antenna on my truck, to increase the range of my cell phone. That was back in the day when I worked in the oil patch. I actually used these, when I worked as a lineman, to replace fuses on the 14.4 kV distribution lines.
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The MOHU Leaf (indoor) gets great reviews from the vintage trailer crowd been thinking of giving it a try. I noticed that there is also a thin Winegard Rayzar Amplified Portable Indoor HD Antenna as well, dont know anyone who has
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Carol H: I gave a review of the Rayzor back on post # 4
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Carol H: I gave a review of the Rayzor back on post # 4
Thanks Bob - sounds like its something to look at a bit more seriously.
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