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Old 03-20-2014, 11:24 AM   #15
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The OP registry lists a 2009 Forester. Pretty sure it's spec's are the same as my 2010, which is a 2400lb max w/brakes & 200 lb tongue weight. It's very easy to go over 200lbs on the tongue. My batteries are rear mounted and I can still quite easily exceed 200lbs on the tongue if not careful. I use a scale to ensure I don't go over. From my personal experience, my Forester does pretty good but I couldn't imagine pulling a bigger trailer with it.
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Old 03-20-2014, 11:29 AM   #16
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Front of TV is NOT light. Not sure how that got established. I've read everything on Forester ability to tow and I am very light in scamp 16 with only basics and no extras like microwave, tv, AC or any extras.
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Old 03-20-2014, 11:59 AM   #17
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The tongue weight idea came about because you posted that your were loading stuff in the back of the trailer to keep it level. Usually a no-no. And, as indicated, you don't know what the actual tongue weight is, a basic first step needed in solving a sway problem

Subaru's limit of only 200 lbs of tongue weight with up to 2400 lbs of trailer is a recipe for sway problems.

With a 200 lb tongue limit, I personally would limit total trailer weight to around 1800 lbs, something very hard to do with a 16' Scamp that is listed as having 1750-2000 lbs factory weight.

But again, this entire discussion and offered help can only be valid with some real weight numbers.
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Old 03-20-2014, 12:06 PM   #18
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The last time I sorted through Fred's Trailer Weights in the Real World, the lightest Scamp was 2420 pounds with a 320 pound tongue weight. There were other tongue weights that were lighter but the overall trailer was heavier. I haven't looked through them in the last 4-6 months so there might be more Scamp 16's now.
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Old 03-20-2014, 12:08 PM   #19
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Thanks Steve, I saw that too.... I rest my case.
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Old 03-20-2014, 12:09 PM   #20
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Front of TV is NOT light. Not sure how that got established.
Here is a pic of a properly connected Subaru. It is utilizing a WDH. Compare this image with your rig's pics. You can easily see how the this Sub and trailer sits perfectly level while yours is not. Weigh your Forester on a scale. Then weigh it with the Scamp attached and you will understand what is happening with the weights.
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Old 03-20-2014, 12:27 PM   #21
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Old 03-20-2014, 12:32 PM   #22
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okay. made appt to weigh trailer tomorrow here are specs on my standard 16'.
here are specs for my size and model before I weight it out:
Approximate weight 1750-2000
3500 pound torsion axle
10” electric brakes
5000 lb. hitch
Hitch weight 165 pounds
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Old 03-20-2014, 02:14 PM   #23
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Yep, those are right off of the Scamp Trailers website and are for an empty trailer, no water, no food, clothes, not even a roll of toilet paper and other stuff.

Be prepared for a surprise if your trailer is packed as ready-to-go.

And don't forget to pack the stuff in the back of the trailer that you mentioned.

We're not trying to be a PITA, we just want everyone to be safe going down the road.

Remember: DeNile is not just a river in Egypt.....
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Old 03-20-2014, 03:24 PM   #24
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Ive weighed my Scamp 16 twice. 1730 lbs unloaded, 2240 loaded. If you have the "deluxe" model with all the wood cabinets, they can be 800-1000 lbs more. Mine does not have a roof AC, microwave, or oven - standard model w bath. As has been stated earlier, loading weight behind the axle will make it sway - you are basically making a big pendulum.
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Old 03-20-2014, 03:37 PM   #25
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Ive weighed my Scamp 16 twice. 1730 lbs unloaded, 2240 loaded. If you have the "deluxe" model with all the wood cabinets, they can be 800-1000 lbs more. Mine does not have a roof AC, microwave, or oven - standard model w bath. As has been stated earlier, loading weight behind the axle will make it sway - you are basically making a big pendulum.
I must say that your estimates of additional weight for the wood cabinets could only be accurate when refering to the 2" thick PETRIFIED WOOD cabinet option! (not presently available from Scamp). I assume those are pretty rare even in the aftermarket!
Otherwise the difference in weight between Deluxe and Standard can be attributed almost entirely to options and cargo!.
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Old 03-20-2014, 03:48 PM   #26
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Thats what I was quoted from the factory, fwiw.....

Oak cabinets and thick countertops weigh quite a bit more than thin fiberglass.
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Thats what I was quoted from the factory, fwiw.....

Oak cabinets and thick countertops weigh quite a bit more than thin fiberglass.
Inspite of your recollection, it just ain't so.
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Old 03-20-2014, 03:58 PM   #28
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Inspite of your recollection, it just ain't so.
Yep you're right. Oak cabinetry is just as light as fiberglass.....
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