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Old 03-20-2014, 04:15 PM   #29
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Yep you're right. Oak cabinetry is just as light as fiberglass.....
At least any difference is trifling...
More than an additional 50% of trailer weight attribution is simply ludicrous!
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Old 03-20-2014, 04:22 PM   #30
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That's Great News then.....

I've always wanted a solid oak HWRV (HardWood RV) now I can get one light enough that I don't need that F-350 that I thought I would need to pull it.

But maybe Redwood would be better, no termites, ever.
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Old 03-20-2014, 04:32 PM   #31
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According to scamptrailers.com.....

Standard 16' 1750-2000 lbs.

Deluxe 16' 2200-2600 lbs.

Looks like they pick up 450 to 600 lbs somewhere.
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Old 03-20-2014, 05:41 PM   #32
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That's Great News then.....

I've always wanted a solid oak HWRV (HardWood RV) now I can get one light enough that I don't need that F-350 that I thought I would need to pull it.

But maybe Redwood would be better, no termites, ever.
That's a good thing about the termites... since they are in fact heavier than African elephants in their natural habitat.
Did you know that the biomass of the termites in Africa is greater than all other animal life on the continent combined.
The termites are therefore heavier than the elephants!
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Old 03-20-2014, 06:46 PM   #33
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This is not the first report we have read of a Scamp 16 exhibiting sway.

But first, it is important to establish a definition. If you sometimes see the trailer give a little wiggle, I would say that is not really sway. True sway is dangerous. If you have the trailer oscillating hard and repeatedly from side to side in a way that makes you wonder if your rig is about to swap ends, that is sway!!

A little wiggle-waggle back there is not too serious. And yes, a sway bar should reduce that motion. As for the wild oscillation, a sway bar is a band-aid on a festering sore; it's better than nothing, but not as good as determining the root cause of the danger and reducing/eliminating it.

The actual weights will tell you a great deal. That is your starting point in knowing what to fix, should that be necessary. Please let us know what you find out. You should be able to measure the hitch weight with a bathroom scale, by the way.
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This is not the first report we have read of a Scamp 16 exhibiting sway.

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Notice the OP mentioned 40-60MPH winds,...
I've lived in houses which swayed on their foundations with that sort of wind.
Here in IllAnnoy the tollroads ban trailers when wind speeds exceed 30MPH!
The Scamp16 is certainly one of the most stable trailers on the road.
Now Okra and Bananas ... there's a sway problem,
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Old 03-27-2014, 01:53 AM   #35
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First you want your trailer to set level when it is loaded and hooked to the car..
Distribute the weight in the trailer.
Approximately 10 to 15% of the actual trailer weight should be at the ball.
Stop at a truck vehicle inspection station and ask to weight all three axels, car and trailer.
If you can get the two axels of the car weighed with out the trailer you will know how much weight is on the cars trailer hitch.
This is what I have been told and I can tow my trailer at 65 with no problem. EXCEPT when that GrayHound bus passes me!!!
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Gee Frank... I see you live in CA.... How do you tow "at 65 with no problem" when the speed limit for towed trailers is 55/// LOL... And my experience is that it's usually Casino bound charter busses that pass at 70-75 mph.

BTW: It's a lot easier to use a bathroom scale to measure tongue weight. I buy analogue bathroom scales at yard sales for $2, compare their accuracy against my home digital scale, lay a piece of 2x6 across the scale and weigh away.

NOTE: Scale/weight purists may not agree with my source of scales but, in as much as my body weight and desired tongue weight are about the same, I can use that as a reference for accuracy.
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55 !!! gosh I must have read the speed sign wrong (grin grin). I like your tongue weight method. Should work as the loaded weight of the trailer shouldn't be much more than a BIG person !!!
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Old 03-27-2014, 01:23 PM   #38
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I always put all weight in rear of trailer and ride with mostly empty black water but sway continued throughout trip. PS I never go above 55 MPH and often drive 45-50 MPH. STILL SWAY VERY OFTEN. Thanks for any suggestions as I am taking trailer I to local trailer guy soon and I may need to buy that sway bar online instead of from him.
O.P. still around? If so:

Above red highlight is the cause of your problem. Adding a sway bar won't solve it, though it may mask the effects a bit. I for one think that even more dangerous, since you'll be depending on that device to "control" a condition that it likely will not be equipped to always overcome. Sway is a very dangerous condition and a major cause of trailer accidents. A sway bar is meant for occasional corrections on a properly set up and load-distributed trailer. It can't be depended on to constantly control the kind of forces st into motion by improper loading. The problem will persist until you restore at least ten percent of total loaded weight to the tongue where it belongs.

For a demonstration of the dramatic effects of poor load distribution, check out this (scale model) short video:

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The OP was last see on March 20 and was going to get the trailer weighed the next day.

(Snark alert) Would be nice to know the results of that weigh-in and tongue weight, just in case some of us were right for a change.....
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Clearly I must not be saying this right. I am heavy if anything on tongue, giving a slight downward tug on tv. But thanks all. I've got answer. Never tow in winds above 20-25 mph. Very simple and I was thinking that was a regular tow situation since winds are chronically that heading west on I-80. I've solves it by swearing off pulling in high winds for hours. When I head west this autumn I will avoid interstates and angle out as I go. Thanks again.
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Clearly I must not be saying this right. I am heavy if anything on tongue, giving a slight downward tug on tv. .

Squat/compress effect on tug is immaterial per sway. It's the relationship between tongue and total trailer weight that matters.

I'd expect as little as 75 pounds or so to give a "slight downward tug" on the Forester. That doesn't mean you've got a stable setup.
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But thanks all. I've got answer. Never tow in winds above 20-25 mph.
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We live and tow mostly around the great lakes where it is windy almost all the time. Never have a sway issue. It's all about set up.
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