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Old 05-25-2014, 11:18 PM   #15
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My pics are too large for multi uploads per post I think?
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Old 05-25-2014, 11:27 PM   #16
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Before pic.
This cr@p took me ages to shave off carefully with a razor, then scrub forever with a 3m pad then finger nails, then more scrubbing etc. looking at just the right angle of light I could see tiny patches of silicone STILL there after all that (so repeat process). I wanted to be sure my first fix was the only one. I know the sealant looks a bit gobby along the top of the rail in post above but it started to set faster than I expected and once had a light skin was basically impossible to start finger painting with so I cut moved on to another battle. The masking tape basically made things worse by the way.. Happy with how my caulk job around the door top flashing went though.
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Old 05-25-2014, 11:30 PM   #17
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Well, there it is a bomber rail for an awning and eliminated several leak sources.
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Old 05-25-2014, 11:44 PM   #18
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Holes cut in the ensolite for washers and nuts. I did not want to do this but was the only clean and fast way to washer,lock washer and nut all 14 bolts quickly and without getting sealant smeared all over. I may grind off the approx 1/4 of bolt length sticking out past the nut inside but also may keep them as is to scab on for future mods like a small clothesline (inside)??? They look ok nice and shiney stainless!!! I needed as much purchase area on the fibreglass as possible (achieved with nice big washers inside and out) as many were damaged cracked and enlarged from the constant stress of the heavy awning over many years that is the rail holes and the fibreglass holes. So using the 1/4 bolts worked well and what I have avail locally to work with no one has decent rivets and They would not have provided consistent results at least with me using a rivet tool. Not a fan of them... I will probably go around the black ensolite and washer with some white.......

Silicone!
Gawd I hate that stuff.
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Old 05-26-2014, 12:55 AM   #19
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I saved the little ensolite donut cut outs and now thinking I should silicone them back in place to reduce / avoid frost sweating ....? Thoughts on this?
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Old 05-26-2014, 11:23 AM   #20
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My recent experience with a Shadow awning is similar. The rear several feet had pulled out of the roof. I am of the opinion that the awning track (at about 10+ feet in length) was too long for the trailer. The "flat part" of the trailer roof is only about 81/2 feet or so, then it starts to curve. As a result, I removed the awning and shortened it to 8 feet, a more compatible length. There were several subsequent issues with the shortening (a good plan, poorly executed), but 8 feet seems about right.
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Old 05-26-2014, 12:26 PM   #21
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Looks good to me. I would not have cut room in the ensolite for the washers. I would just have put the washers over the ensolite. I like the idea of gluing the Ensolite to the top of the nuts.
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Old 05-26-2014, 03:22 PM   #22
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For nice finished look, at this point you could consider adding acorn nuts, possibly with large size (plastic) washers to cover the hole. That rail looks great on the outside.
VHB tape (3M) is a superstrong double sided foam tape, sometimes .06 to .09 in. thick, which can fill and seal gaps. It is really tough, but it alone would not be enough for the awning, I am pretty sure.
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Old 05-26-2014, 05:22 PM   #23
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My recent experience with a Shadow awning is similar. The rear several feet had pulled out of the roof.
One of the reasons that I prefer/installed a regular pulldown awning is that most of the weight when in transport is carried by the awning arms/hardware instead of by the rail. I think bag awnings, depending on type, can simply prove to weigh too much for the rail to withstand the stresses involved if hanging the whole shootin' match off the rail when in transport. Weight combined with movement may have just proven too much for the fasteners in the examples contained in this thread.
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