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Old 09-24-2014, 09:45 AM   #15
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The only day-of-the-week on which I have any special responsibility is Wednesday. Garbage day is clearly the highlight of my week. On topic,,, being in bear country I 1) do not put out my garbage the night before, and 2) I do sprinkle the garbage and recycling with a little ammonia. You only have to clean up one bear mess to get motivated.

I've never heard of a bear injury in CO. I have heard of car doors ripped off to get at ice chests to get at food. (I tried to buy an ice chest on the east coast a few years back. Since I didn't know the magic word "cooler" I got nowhere. My geriatric memory may have reversed the two names.) I'm told that the danger comes mostly from getting between a sow and her cubs. The cubs can enchant you so be careful.

We're told that when facing an aggressive bear (I never have) to make noise, look big by e.g. opening up your jacket and holding it out, and throw things. I have enough trouble with one thing at a time! Then, if actually attacked we are supposed to roll up in a ball to protect our viscera. I can't imagine having the presence of mind and self control to actually do that.

A geologist buddy had a staff member injured in AK. The guy's rifle was on the ground and he was clearing a landing spot for the helicopter to pick him up. IIRC the bear came up behind him and took one swipe and the helicopter arrived. Also, IIRC, it was a grizzly. A few months later he was OK.
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Old 09-24-2014, 10:25 AM   #16
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“Ginny now carries a pen on every hike.”

Norm, Norm, Norm…

There is a fly in the ointment here. You assume that: 1}the lion would attack you, and, 2) that she would come to your aid.

Now what if the lion attacks her? There is no mention of you carrying a pen to save her! Hmmm, better hope she doesn’t see through your little plan otherwise if you are attacked, she just may use her pen to make a note to herself to file a claim on your life insurance policy when she gets back.

Likewise, you may not want to encourage her to get a concealed-carry permit. If you are attacked and she has to use it, she could “accidentally” hit you instead. No problem there, the inquest would be an open-and-shut case. Accidentally shot you while trying to save you from the attack, and the claw and teeth marks will be there to back up her story. She files life insurance claim and spends the rest of her days in the Bahamas instead of New Hampshire and having to spend 260 days of the year in a 16’ camper with you. Do you sense a problem here?

By the way, could you give me her phone number? Just to offer my condolences after your accident; of course the life insurance money would have nothing to do with it.
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We're told that when facing an aggressive bear (I never have) to make noise, look big by e.g. opening up your jacket and holding it out, and throw things. I have enough trouble with one thing at a time! Then, if actually attacked we are supposed to roll up in a ball to protect our viscera. I can't imagine having the presence of mind and self control to actually do that.
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I just returned from Mueller State Park (CO) and on a bulletin board, in my words, "speak softly to the bear, don't yell, and back away".
That seems easy to make fun of ("Hello Popa/Moma/Baby Bear, it's 4:00 P.M. and would you like tea?") and perhaps difficult to do when your IQ drops to single digits. Perhaps doing that will help calm us too!

I'd also like to remove the word "aggressive".

I hope I haven't misinformed anyone.
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“Ginny now carries a pen on every hike.”

Norm, Norm, Norm…

There is a fly in the ointment here. You assume that: 1}the lion would attack you, and, 2) that she would come to your aid.

Now what if the lion attacks her? There is no mention of you carrying a pen to save her! Hmmm, better hope she doesn’t see through your little plan otherwise if you are attacked, she just may use her pen to make a note to herself to file a claim on your life insurance policy when she gets back.

Likewise, you may not want to encourage her to get a concealed-carry permit. If you are attacked and she has to use it, she could “accidentally” hit you instead. No problem there, the inquest would be an open-and-shut case. Accidentally shot you while trying to save you from the attack, and the claw and teeth marks will be there to back up her story. She files life insurance claim and spends the rest of her days in the Bahamas instead of New Hampshire and having to spend 260 days of the year in a 16’ camper with you. Do you sense a problem here?

By the way, could you give me her phone number? Just to offer my condolences after your accident; of course the life insurance money would have nothing to do with it.
I love humor. Thanks.
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There has been numerous reports often with photos of mountain lion sightings here in Wisconsin . Our DNR says there are NO mountain lions in Wisconsin and treats the report of one the same as a BIGFOOT sighting . The DNR's motivation for dismissing the reports is a mystery to many
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The DNR's motivation for dismissing the reports is a mystery to many.
Many who live in rural areas around here are besieged by Black Bears. Not really dangerous but one couple I know has their freezer out in the shed routinely destroyed by bears trying to access the deer meat inside. Fish & Games postion is "ain't no bears hereabouts". Of course I had another Wildlife Officer tell me one of my favorite Grey Squirrel hunting areas in the National Forest "was not squirrel territory". Guess nobody told the squirrels.
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A mountain lion was killed by a car in Connecticut. It was from South Dakota.
So, the car was from South Dakota...

Had it escaped from a police impound yard?
Why did it attack the mountain lion?

Was it a Cougar in a jealous fit of rage, wanting revenge for the deceased abandoning their children (Bobcat and Lynx) and running off with a Jaguar?

Or was it just a Wildcat with a tiger in its tank and a chip in its computer?

Who knows what evil lurks in hearts of automobiles? The Shadow knows!
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When boondocking you must be careful when approaching wildlife of all kinds.....
Is it a harmless duck or a fearsome viper?
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So, the car was from South Dakota...

Had it escaped from a police impound yard?
Why did it attack the mountain lion?
Was it a Cougar in a jealous fit of rage, wanting revenge for the deceased abandoning their children (Bobcat and Lynx) and running off with a Jaguar?

Or was it just a Wildcat with a tiger in its tank and a chip in its computer?

Who knows what evil lurks in hearts of automobiles? The Shadow knows!
Floyd, Love the humor. I'll try to be more careful.

I thought it was interesting that they would check the Lion's DNA to determine from what group it came, more interesting that they believed it had came from SD. There must be a DNA data base for Mountain Lions.
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Floyd, Love the humor. I'll try to be more careful.

I thought it was interesting that they would check the Lion's DNA to determine from what group it came, more interesting that they believed it had came from SD. There must be a DNA data base for Mountain Lions.
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Three of us had a mountain lion follow us for close to two hours hiking around Estes park. It was just random quick glimpses 100' off in the tree line. It was probably just curious, but I was damn happy to get back to my truck.

We had to restrain the one idiot that wanted to run back. We explained we appreciated his sacrifice, but if he wanted to make it fun for the cat, we would appreciate it if he headed AWAY from the truck so the remaining two of us didn't interrupt the cats snack time while we tried to get to the truck. He walked.


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Wolves, now protected, have made a big comeback in MI's Upper Peninsula. The DNR says the population is somewhere around 650. The deer herd is noticeably lower. I asked the DNR how many deer the wolves kill and eat, and the answer surprised me. It averaged one deer killed per week, per wolf. That means approx 33,800 deer killed by the wolf population in the U.P. alone. Last year a controversial wolf hunt was allowed, but only 22 wolves were taken by hunters. I think it was a concession by the DNR that wolves are becoming a problem. The locals (Yoopers) have known that for some time. One store sells a T-shirt that shows a rifle with smoke coming from the muzzle with " Wolves... Smoke a Pack a Day" printed below.

I hunt with wolves nearby, but seldom see them. I've only been concerned one time. I was walking from an open field to a tree line. When I got within 100 feet of it 3 or 4 wolves appeared and spread out. They started barking at me. They sounded like any other big dog would when defending their turf. That surprised me because I've only ever heard wolves howl before. I believe they were on a kill and didn't want company. My thumb instinctively went to my safety, and I changed direction. They went about their business.

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Our young grandson is a hunter. This year he was in his tree stand in the pre-dawn morning and sounded his new deer call. The response he received was the howling of numerous coyote's approaching from multiple directions. He stayed quiet recording them until they dispersed with the Sun. Of course he was more interested than frightened, but certainly surprised bu the number.

He had a more frightening experience last year while bow hunting in his tree stand. He heard a rifle being fired in the distance, u usual during bow season. He did not get a deer and dismounted from the tree to return to his truck.

As he approached the truck he heard shouts in his direction to get down and show his hands. It was the local swat team in full gear summoned by someone who had heard the gun shot.

Now he was scared, by numerous heavily armed, armored police in battle gear all because some one had fired a rifle. After many nervous minutes, one of the officers recognized our grandson and had all the officers stand down.
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