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Old 06-01-2003, 09:11 AM   #1
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Awning rail installation

We have covered tents, screened rooms, add-a-rooms, awnings, tarps, and other do-dads for attaching space-makers to our trailers. What I'm trying to find out is if anyone has ever installed an awning rail themself.

I talked to Casita and found out that an awning that uses an awning rail would be fine for my older trailer. They advised that I rivet it about every four or so inches.

Surely, this cannot be that difficult to do, right? So, have any of you every put on your own awning rail? Anything other than silicone/caulk? Did you put washers or any other support with your rivets?

As a reminder, the Casita does have carpet on the walls, so if all I have to do is rivet it, then it shouldn't even show from the inside. I recall reading about rivets that actually spread open (much like a dry wall anchor). If I can find them in aluminum, I think this would work.

Experience and other pertinent information would be greatly appreciated before I start on this.

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Old 06-01-2003, 09:27 AM   #2
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Hi Suz
I would use butyl tape.That putty like stuff under rail.Put in fasteners every 4 inches and also add hold down straps under rail.Here are photos of my 13 Boler that i am working on.Note on this unit that fasteners are 8 inches apart.

<img src=http://www.fiberglassrv.com/board/uploads/3eda0cc213143rail1.jpg/>

<img src=http://www.fiberglassrv.com/board/uploads/3eda0cd75ee56rail2.jpg/>
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Old 06-01-2003, 11:24 AM   #3
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* * * * * * Hi Suz
I would use butyl tape.
Hi, Ches. I'm glad you said that. I have some and had wondered about using it. I just didn't know if the additional adhesion from the silicone/caulk would be more beneficial in the overall longevity of it.
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Old 06-01-2003, 12:13 PM   #4
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Hi Suz
I think after you got it installed you could put a nice bead along the top. Just a thought.:)
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Old 06-02-2003, 09:28 AM   #5
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Rivets that spread out:
Uh... all rivets spread out - the things that don't spread out are called bolts. :)

I had to replace several rivets on my Boler when I was fixing it up. On the inside, I used small washers (they'll be on the same rack as the rivets at the hardware store). The Boler originally had acorn nuts on the backs of the rivets, but I didn't bother with that.

When installing the rivets, I coated the shaft of the rivet with caulk, put some caulk into the hole before inserting the rivet and after the rivet was popped, I filled the center hole with still more caulk.

I wonder if this might be a circumstance when a bolt might be better though. I used bolts when I was installing my new running lights and the door holdback. Easier to get it tightened down.

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Old 06-02-2003, 10:37 AM   #6
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Different rivets

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* * * * * * Rivets that spread out:
* Uh... *all rivets spread out - the things that don't spread out are called bolts. *:)

mkw
True, but the two that I'm refering to spread out differently.

The one on the right is the standard one that is mostly use. Sometimes it is used with a washer, hex nut, or plain. It has a more bulbous effect when applied.

The one on the left is the one that I was asking about. This one is partially closed. When fully closed it spreads out flatter.

I was just wondering if one was better than the other for this application.

<img src=http://www.fiberglassrv.com/board/uploads/3edb6efc18cd3rivetedit.JPG/>
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Old 06-02-2003, 12:20 PM   #7
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canopy

Suz:

Yur gonna put about 30 holes in the roof and thread that canopy?

Not hard to put on, but if I had a trailer with no holes in the roof I'd sure think seriously before drilling. I like modifications as much as anybody, but drilling holes in the roof is akin to open heart surgery.

FWIW, you can get 'sealed end rivets'.
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We have covered tents, screened rooms, add-a-rooms, awnings, tarps, and other do-dads for attaching space-makers to our trailers. *What I'm trying to find out is if anyone has ever installed an awning rail themself.

I talked to Casita and found out that an awning that uses an awning rail would be fine for my older trailer. *They advised that I rivet it about every four or so inches.
Suz, I remember Morgan used a product on his Casita that seemed to be excellent for attaching to Fiberglass.

They were called “Thread Serts”. What I like about this is that it to is aluminum and has a larger surface. It also has threads so you can remove and replace.

It might be worth a consideration.

<img src=http://www.fiberglassrv.com/board/uploads/3edb94eae112dthread-sert.gif/>*<img src=http://www.fiberglassrv.com/board/uploads/3edb959f87e74threadsert.gif/>
[b]THREAD SERT

http://www.jcwhitney.com/productnoitem.jht...requestid=29030
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The rail

Yeah, Don, I know. Why the heck you think it is taking me so long to do it. It's very painful....:o I have stewed on this about a year.

Michael - Thanks. I have bookmarked it and plan on looking into it.
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Screened room and EZ ups

I have thought about them....and I like the idea. Problem is, that sometimes I stay in private campgrounds and they are adament about tents of any kind. I might be able to get buy with a non-walled shelter, but some of them will not allow things like that. I'm still thinking about do that.
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