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Old 01-09-2012, 07:01 PM   #15
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Good idea Frederick - one could build guides out of PVC pipes.
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Old 01-09-2012, 07:19 PM   #16
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Very nice Frederick. I ran 25 ton cranes for the state of Michigan for 20 years, had my own semis for 25 years be for that
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Old 01-09-2012, 07:52 PM   #17
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Would it be paractical or possible to mount a pulley at the end of the driveway where the back of the trailer will end up? Then attach a cable to the back of the trailer, through the pulley and under the trailer to the front. Then winch it from the front, pulling it backwards?
This way, the pulley will provide a center point of direction that will guide the trailer straight back, regardless of where you are pulling from. That with a pair of side rails may help keep the trailer moving in a reasonably straight line.
Don't know if thiis makes sense to anyone else or if it will even work. Its just another out of the box option.
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Old 01-09-2012, 07:57 PM   #18
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Just re read your original post and see you are going into the drive downhill so my option is not an option. :-(
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Old 01-09-2012, 07:58 PM   #19
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Prior to the hack, someone posted pictures of a post in concrete with a winch that allowed them to winch the trailer into it's parking spot backwards. Obviously the tongue had a wheel of some sort on it. Something to consider once again for some....
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Old 01-09-2012, 10:49 PM   #20
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my suggestion----keep the trailer and sell the house. makes backing up much, much easier.
OK with me, but I want to keep my marriage intact.
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Old 01-09-2012, 11:13 PM   #21
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Thank you for all great ideas. Steel pipe guides would likely work very well, the issue could be a high cost and reselling of the residential property. Winch and pulley sounds very intriguing, it would require 3 wheel guidance system (jack and trailer wheels). PVC over wood as guides could be a good option. I will keep you posted on the progress.


I removed the gate today to increase the clearance by a few inches and will begin tests tomorrow. The original dual inward swing gate will have to be changed to a single outward swing gate capable to swing up the hill with 1’ flipped bottom. I will begin the gate project after the reality test of getting the trailer somewhere in the driveway.



Thank you again,


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Old 01-23-2012, 09:07 PM   #22
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Some progress.

Thank you all for your feedback. My wife and I parked our trailer with just walkie-talkies. It was a pain, so I am looking for possible options. In addition; due to clearance I need to replace a 2 part gate to a single one mounted on the fence post able to swing uphill which is another cost of a most likely custom gate, I had to remove the gate to get the trailer in. The following options with some variations are left for my final decision:

1. Push with my truck and mount a camera Rear View Camera on the rear trailer's bumper which would be connected to my currently installed rearview system. I still have one available channel on current installation. Align the camera with the concrete expansion joint. Adding a quick trailer connector would speed-up set-ups.

2. Push with my truck and mount wireless SenseStat sensors on the trailer SenseStat Obstacle Detection Sensor System Wireless - $254.09
Due to 80 degree sensor ultrasonic cone shaped beam and minimum working distance of about 6”, sensors would have to be mounted about 20” above the ground, 18” in from the trailer sidewall and 7” behind the rear bumper.

3. Utilizing the driveway slope, use a custom 4’x4’ trailer dolly with an offset shaft allowing me to see side clearance during controlling trailer direction while winching. Use a winch mounted on either dolly or the truck to let the trailer go down and up.

I am leaning towards SenseStat due to accuracy.

One of the options I evaluated was to use a very expensive EU style trailer movers permanently attached to the trailer capable of moving single or dual axle trailers Compare Caravan Movers. They would fit perfectly my application of 2-3% slope. These movers are popular in the EU, but the only company which distributed one of them in the US is out of business - Powrtouch Trailer Mover so I asked myself why. The trailer movers which are popular in US are under trailer tongue movers. I think that the reason is that weight of hitches in the US is much higher than in the EU increasing the turning moment in consequence overwhelming the movers. So, I dropped that expensive option early in the process.
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More out-of-the-box ideas...

- A pulled trailer always goes straight. It is when backing up (i.e. pushing it from the front) that it tends to have a mind of its own. Did you consider coming up with a way to pull it from behind?

- Mounting stick-on laser levels on house and/or trailer that you can then line up and monitor from truck.

- Mount camera on house high above trailer looking downwards, overseeing the entire scene.
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Old 01-24-2012, 08:29 PM   #24
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Thank you for your new out of the box ideas.
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- A pulled trailer always goes straight. It is when backing up (i.e. pushing it from the front) that it tends to have a mind of its own. Did you consider coming up with a way to pull it from behind?
I agree with your judgment than trailer pulled will go in straight line. My driveway has 2-3% down slope which would require some way of controlling potential freewheeling down, so this option could be complex.
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- Mounting stick-on laser levels on house and/or trailer that you can then line up and monitor from truck.
Definitely possible, but to get some analog measurement result would likely be complex.

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- Mount camera on house high above trailer looking downwards, overseeing the entire scene.
This one could possibly solve my problem. I am looking into wireless 110VAC or 12 VDC cameras and 12VDC monitor for the truck. I will not be able to see the fence clearance side but the house side is more critical in case of oopsie. Thank you.
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trailer pulled will go in straight line.
Sorry, I somehow managed to miss Greybeard's posts above that pretty much explain this same idea.
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Old 02-21-2012, 06:19 PM   #26
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Aluminum gate

The new aluminum gate project is done. The lower panel can swing up allowing the gate to swing up the hill resulting with widest possible access to the driveway. The previous gate had to be removed to park the trailer. Old gate went as a freebie on Craigslist in 3 min.

The most likely next step is purchasing and installation of wireless ultrasound sensors so I can monitor trailer position between the fence and the wall while pushing it. I am drawing the mounts, the issue is that the minimum working sensor distance to obstacle is 8.7", minimum height is 1.3', and beam cone is 80 degree so it is a challenge for sensor mounting.

SenseStat Obstacle Detection Sensor System Wireless - $254.09

My wife is beginning to discuss a possible change to a smaller, single axle trailer or a Sprinter conversion both of which would be easier to maneuver. Smaller trailers and the Sprinter are less than 7’ wide. Time will tell where this discussion will go.

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Old 04-18-2012, 03:48 PM   #27
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Beginning of the end of the parking saga.

The parking saga continues. In preparation for our 1-2 month trip, we just removed the trailer from our driveway; it was a challenge especially to clear a Verizon green box which reduces the clearance by an additional 6”. It was more difficult to get it out than to get it in. I used rear a hitch and at one point I thought I will have to re-hitch the trailer to either the front or rear hitch. I cleared the rear canopy arm by less than an inch with great help from my wife. After this hard process my wife and I decided to sadly sell the trailer after our trip. The task of parking is overwhelming impeding camping trips.
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Old 04-18-2012, 04:03 PM   #28
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If that were my driveway, that Verizon box would be hit everyday until they moved it!!
After all that work you put into this project, don't give up so soon. Maybe Verizon can be persuaded to move that box.
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