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Old 04-21-2011, 03:28 PM   #57
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Not really- I drove 1000 miles a day- got up at 4 am and drove till 10 pm- for 3 days- just to GET there. I'm in no position to pack that trailer up and haul it through the winds of Wyoming, and mountains of Utah once again. That is just not an option for me.
Cyndi!

We've been wondering how it's been going.

So-
What other legal options has Connecticut offered?
It's kind of hard to visualize them communicating with Oregon in your behalf since the trailer doesn't "exist" in Oregon's system.
It may still exist in California's system, but probably as "reported sold to"... an Oregon buyer.
Hard to see any legal road that doesn't take you back to Medford, or wherever Alan lives.

Keep us posted- we're all hoping to learn from your experience!

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Old 04-21-2011, 05:26 PM   #58
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Cyndi's main problem is chain-of-possession, and it's almost impossible to fudge your way out of that situation.
BUT, as if that weren't enough...
If it's the trailer in this forum at http://www.fiberglassrv.com/forums/f...eam-43061.html "1984 16' Fiberstream" she might have your VIN problem, too.
According to another member who posted in that thread, the seller was upfront about both defects, and willing to go to the Oregon DMV with the buyer to solve them.
And probably still is, except that Cyndi hauled it (unlicensed and uninsured) 3000 miles away from the nearest Oregon DMV office.
Quickest solution:
Cyndi must buy a short term trip permit permitting her unlicensed vehicle to travel on public highways and drive all the way back to Oregon where the seller will accompany her to the DMV office. I'm sure her insurance company will issue a temporary rider so that she needn't traverse the country again uninsured.

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Old 04-21-2011, 05:58 PM   #59
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Cool Maybe a political solution?

Cyndi, have you contacted your state representative? All things are possible with politics. I have even heard of individual bills where something like this would be resolved through law. It can't hurt, all they can say is, "No."
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Old 04-21-2011, 06:06 PM   #60
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Cyndi---saying a prayer for you that you find out there's a simpler solution!!!!

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PA sure does require a vin inspection. I had to get one on my 74 Trillium- and bought that out of state in NJ.

Man 'B' seemed nice enough- I believe he will do all that he can to assist. I will let everyone know the outcome. Hopefully- he has the contact info to Man "A" who can just get a replacement title and sign it over to me. Simple.
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Cyndi, have you contacted your state representative? All things are possible with politics. I have even heard of individual bills where something like this would be resolved through law. It can't hurt, all they can say is, "No."

Interesting idea...what should Cyndi say?

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I don't think they'd even consider it until she exhausted the other avenues.
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Old 04-21-2011, 08:56 PM   #63
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While we wait...
Idea!
We may have it in our power to solve the "can't find the VIN" problem!
Cyndi, on your trip to the Redwoods in California after picking up the trailer, didn't you communicate with this site about the location of your heater?
I think Donna put out a call to Frederick (Fiberstream "expert") and he responded with the info you were looking for...
Why not ask HIM where the VIN is on your Fiberstream?
At least you'd have that info when you do whatever it is you decide to do

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While we wait...
Idea!

I think Donna put out a call to Frederick (Fiberstream "expert") and he responded with the info you were looking for...
Why not ask HIM where the VIN is on your Fiberstream?
My Fiber Stream's factory Serial Number (it was built before VIN's were invented) is on a thin aluminum foil ID "plate" glued to the driver's side / street side body just to the side of the front marker light, as seen in the lower right corner of this photo:
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Old 04-21-2011, 10:20 PM   #65
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My Fiber Stream's factory Serial Number (it was built before VIN's were invented) is on a thin aluminum foil ID "plate" glued to the driver's side / street side body just to the side of the front marker light, as seen in the lower right corner of this photo:
One problem SOLVED!

One to go...

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Assuming there is such a tag on Cyndi's trailer. But if not she might be able to use the picture showing where it should be to prove there is no VIN number.
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Cool Contacting your state representative.

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Interesting idea...what should Cyndi say?

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Old 04-22-2011, 07:33 AM   #68
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Interesting- upon another careful inspection of the documents I have- the title is NOT signed by Man "B".
I have a bill of sale from Man "A" to Man "B". An idea may be- because vehicles can be owned by more than one person, is to sign my name on the bill of sale from Man "A" to Man "B". Thus, making man "B" and me the owner. Then, I have a second bill of sale, for actually 1/2 the $ Man "A" sold the trailer for (when I bought it from Man "B"~ it truly is not in the full amount of the orginal sale) to me, which could indicate I bought him out. I could then get the VIN inspection, sign the title and Viola! Any thoughts?
The state trooper is out of the office until next week, so I have a few days to contimplate. Also, Man "B" says a senior member of the forum here contacted him- and he is hurt and upset (hopefully not too furious if he could assist me he would still be willing) his integrity is questioned. Man "B" did offer to go to the DMV with me- I chose not told. It was a Sunday (DMV closed)- and I thought this would be a no brainer. This is my fault, not his.

Also- there is no sticker on the outside of the trailer with a vin number. I do have a number stamping set- a friend at the garage to stamp a metal card- but I'd like to do this as legal as possible. I dont' want to fight the law anymore than I have to. I obtained the trailer legally through a bill of sale- the problem is just getting a title for it. Period.
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Go back in to DMV, BUT...

...this time, you take with you a print-out of this Whole-Blessed-Five-Page-Long Fiberglass RV thread. They will then know your FULL unabridged story and that you are an HONERABLE WOMAN, in that you turned down ALL devious routes to accomplish your goal.
They will also see that this is an upstanding site that has been around for a long time and is well used by knowledgeable Egg Owners.
As with many state agencies, they differ in various degrees from office to office. I bought a trailer for a friend, here in Oregon. The trailer originally came from Washington and was sold to 'another' friend of mine as an abandoned trailer (of course it had some major issues that lent credence to it's being abandoned). My 'other' friend had received a Bill of Sale from the Washington man, who 'was given' the abandoned vehicle from the property owner on which it had been sitting. My 'other' friend gave me a Bill of Sale, and I gave my friend (the last buyer of the Egg) a Bill of Sale together with the other Bill of Sale documentation. The true KEY to getting the title, after several attempts with different county DMV offices, was to go to the smallest and friendliest DMV office (a two person operation in Tillamook, OR). They bent over backwards and within 3 weeks, he received the title in the mail. Unreal that they don't always follow their OWN DMV rules and regulations and that they can sometimes find a bit of leeway!
My, MY...how do these stories get so long-winded....
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I think "Shakespeare" might be an appropriate name for your tow Cyndivg11. It's certainly generated a lot of drama!
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