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Old 04-22-2011, 09:24 AM   #71
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attempted to contact Man "A"

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I think "Shakespeare" might be an appropriate name for your tow Cyndivg11. It's certainly generated a lot of drama!
Through the fiberglassrv for sale site. I see a listing for the trailer I purchased- which he, Man "A" sold to Man "B" via that site and emailed Man "A my story.

Man "B" contacted me last night via email to say he was the rightful owner when he purchased it from Man "A" having a bill of sale with both signatures. Also to say, he had no way to contact Man "A". Maybe man "a" will return my email...we will see...

Funny, I had no idea this topic generated so much response until I saw the page number in the upper right hand corner...I can't thank everyone enough for your thoughtfulness and care in helping me solve this problem. I have my entire summer scheduled with festivals! I'm ready to go...! (with or without a title.)
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Old 04-22-2011, 10:06 AM   #72
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Well...in California Man B would not be the legal owner until Man A sent a release of liability to the DMV and it was recorded. This release is to protect Man A (in case of accidents) until Man B legally titles it which did not happen. We do not know if Man A filed a release or not, some people don't, having good faith that the new owner will transfer and register their new vehicle as required by law.

If I was Man A I would certainly contact you and get this straightened out, legally it is to his benefit.
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Old 04-22-2011, 11:01 AM   #73
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Interesting- upon another careful inspection of the documents I have- the title is NOT signed by Man "B".
I have a bill of sale from Man "A" to Man "B". An idea may be- because vehicles can be owned by more than one person, is to sign my name on the bill of sale from Man "A" to Man "B". Thus, making man "B" and me the owner. Then, I have a second bill of sale, for actually 1/2 the $ Man "A" sold the trailer for (when I bought it from Man "B"~ it truly is not in the full amount of the orginal sale) to me, which could indicate I bought him out. I could then get the VIN inspection, sign the title and Viola! Any thoughts?
The state trooper is out of the office until next week, so I have a few days to contimplate.
Cyndi!
NOW you're cookin' with GAS

I think this is a brilliant idea.
It's even TRUE, sort of: you and man "B" are in a kind of "unholy alliance" partnership that you'd both like to dissolve...
If you can make that your story and stick with it you might have found a legitimate way out of this kerfuffle.
If you can persuade man "B" to provide you with a notarized letter releasing his interest to you, the subject of an intervening transaction needn't come up!
The letter should state SIMPLY THAT-his release of interest to you. The less said, the better. The State's main interest is that the line of succession of owners is unbroken, and this would satisfy that concern.
Per the missing VIN/serial number tag: You might search this site's trailer registry for owners of Fiberstreams that are the same year as yours- it may be that Fiberstream changed to a more permanent marking method by the mid-'80's (Frederick's is a '70's model ). It may even be inside the trailer somewhere, as is true of some other TT's. BUT if it was missing when California licensed the trailer, they would probably have issued a new one. I don't know about other states, but in that circumstance in Washington, they stamp the new VIN permanently on the tongue. You might call California DMV and ask them how they go about re-numbering, and where on the trailer you should look for the number as it appears on the title.
One word of caution- if I were in your shoes, I wouldn't talk (except "anonymously") to any licensing authority in my home state, no matter how friendly, until I had all my ducks in a row. I'd be concerned about inadvertently revealing to him/her information that she/he may be duty-bound to act upon, if you know what I mean.
Remember: The less said, the better.......for everyone!

Good luck!

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Old 04-30-2011, 03:00 AM   #74
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I have a bill of sale from Man "A" to Man "B". An idea may be- because vehicles can be owned by more than one person, is to sign my name on the bill of sale from Man "A" to Man "B". Thus, making man "B" and me the owner.

I don't think it is a good idea to modify documents. Consult a lawyer.

It is difficult to get everyone "on board" when "stretching the truth." Most people don't have a good enough memory to "lie."

"What a wicked web we weave when first we practice to deceive."
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Old 05-02-2011, 01:11 AM   #75
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Hi: All...If "A" appears with a title (Ownership) and it has never been changed by the DMV... to "B" or "C"... the trailer is still his no matter who has paid whom!!!
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Old 05-12-2011, 11:02 PM   #76
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Similar problem...

Bought my first Scamp in Nashville and just got a bill-of-sale. Got back to Atlanta and found the unit had no serial number on it anywhere. Was not stamped on the tongue anywhere. Had a cop come out and verify that there was no serial number. Then the city issued me a VIN, calling it a home-built trailer. Attached the plate to the trailer and then had to take it down to the State Patrol to have them verify that it had been attached. Got my plates the next day. Sounds like a hassle but it really wasn't. Men in blue were very helpful.
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Old 05-13-2011, 12:52 AM   #77
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Hi, Jay

Glad everything turned out for you!
Some title transfer situations are easier than others, all right

I wonder how everything finally turned out for Cyndi???

I hope she was able to sort out her problems...

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Old 05-13-2011, 01:36 PM   #78
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...working on it...
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Old 05-13-2011, 02:04 PM   #79
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Hi, Cyndi

We're all still "pulling" for you!

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Old 05-13-2011, 08:34 PM   #80
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Hi, Cyndi

We're all still "pulling" for you!

Francesca

All I can say...the Fiberstream is titled...rightfully mine, as I paid for it from Man "B" with a bill of sale. It is legally road worthy, registered and plated!!!

Through this entire ordeal, one name came to mind (to give a name to my 'new' fiberstream trailer) since the very beginning of this title ordeal- AND, it is available as a license plate: MALARKY
What do you thinK?!!!
No more detail available...- just used my resources.
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Old 05-13-2011, 10:02 PM   #81
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Through this entire ordeal, one name came to mind (to give a name to my 'new' fiberstream trailer) since the very beginning of this title ordeal- AND, it is available as a license plate: MALARKY
What do you thinK?!!!
Good for you and I like the name, it fits!
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.....and the Prize for Bullheaded, Rock Solid, Pennsylvania Forge Aheadedness goes to....

! CYNDI !
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LOVE the name------So glad it worked out! Hope you can start having fun now!
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Old 05-14-2011, 11:26 AM   #84
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.....and the Prize for Bullheaded, Rock Solid, Pennsylvania Forge Aheadedness goes to....

! CYNDI !
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AWWW!!! I can't thank everyone enough for your support! ~ Should anyone have a similar problem, drop me a line...it worked- that's all that matters! Taking my FiberStream "Malarky" to PhanPhare Festival next weekend!!! I can't wait!

Yee haw!!!!
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