Originally Posted by Meghan
about my un titled un registered Play Pac? A caretaker who owned the play pac died 15 years ago leaving it in the barn he care took. 7 years ago a lady bought the barn and contents with no listing of the camper just "contents" from the owners who hired the care taker. This week the lady who bought the barn and its contents sold it to me. I have a bill of sale only. And I cant find a VIN. I have tried many routes and am getting nowhere. I didnt read the entire thread, but do you have any advice? I am in NY
In the thread you started at Hi! I just bought a play pac
you say that you're picking up the trailer on Monday...
Sounds like your transaction isn't complete yet!
That's good for you, since it means the seller is still in the picture, and motivated to finish the deal!
Try to get past your feeling that you've copped a major score, and focus on the FACT that you're involved in a business transaction in which the other guy's not keeping his/her end of the bargain. You've (almost) purchased a piece of merchandise that the seller "warrants" to be usable, but without a legal title, IT'S NOT.
Unless New York is an exception to the rules of most states, you can't legally take this unit on the public roadway without either a valid registration
or a trip permit.
You can't register it without a title.
Pay close attention to what comes next:
DON'T REMOVE THE TRAILER FROM THE SELLER'S PROPERTY UNTIL THE TITLE PROBLEM IS RESOLVED. This is your only leverage against the seller.
At this stage of the game, possessed of your money, all the seller wants is for the trailer to be gone. They can't "sell" it to anybody else without fear of a hellacious (promise me, now!) lawsuit from you. You're just another (living ) encumbrance on the trailer, and that's the last thing they want.
They've taken your money, and as fulfillment of the bargain, they have to assist you in straightening out the title mess.
NOTE: They also can't "make you" give the trailer back, if you want to keep it. Their obligation is to finish the deal if that's what you want.
I guarantee you that if you remind them that whatever drama surrounds this trailer's history has NOTHING to do with the bargain they've made with you, they'll very willingly accompany you to the DMV to get this sorted out- not because they want to, but because they have to!
I recommend the soft-soap "babe-in-the-woods" approach when you talk to them about this- you know, get all wide eyed when you tell them that you "want to do everything right", and you "don't want to muddy up your perfect driving record by getting ticketed", and "your insurance won't cover an illegal/unregistered tow", and etc.
All of which is true, am I right?
And don't let'em scare you by "threatening to just "sell the trailer to someone else". It's yours, they've told you in writing that it's yours, and it would be fraud for them to "take it back" simply because you have the brains to demand that they come across with the paperwork that perfects the bargain they've made with you.
Just make sure that they understand that YOU won't let them make their problem (bad title) a problem for you! You'll likely be in for the surprise of your life when they fall
all over themselves beatin' feet down to the DMV
Now, make us all proud!...............
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