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Old 04-18-2012, 07:50 PM   #15
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I agree with your conclusion for several reasons:
1- The box is quite likely to interfere with steering motion
2- The hitch tongue weight capacity would be exceeded with more than just the loaded hitch box alone.
3- The extension lenght under the box is so long that it would be unsafe to attach a trailer on it by any means. This is why cargo extensions instruction manual says it is designed for a maximum load of 500 lbs, for instance.

yeah that's what I figured guess I'm gonna have to get rid of the hitch box when I tow the boler. I LOVE THAT BOX it has SO MUCH STORAGE!!!.
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Old 04-18-2012, 07:58 PM   #16
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yeah that's what I figured guess I'm gonna have to get rid of the hitch box when I tow the boler. I LOVE THAT BOX it has SO MUCH STORAGE!!!.
What brand of hitch box is that?
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Old 04-18-2012, 08:03 PM   #17
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it's a THULE but they no longer make it. they make a different one now. this one swings out (it's broken so it's now held shut with ratchet straps) but the new ones just tilt down. this is the current model Amazon.com: Thule Transporter Combination Hitch Cargo Carrier: Sports & Outdoors
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Old 04-18-2012, 08:07 PM   #18
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Ana.... can you strap the box to the roof of the tug? Or maybe get a different box for the tug? I understand the "want" to store stuff in a box, not on the hitch and not in the trailer. So, this is just MY idea...
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Old 04-18-2012, 08:13 PM   #19
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Ana.... can you strap the box to the roof of the tug? Or maybe get a different box for the tug? I understand the "want" to store stuff in a box, not on the hitch and not in the trailer. So, this is just MY idea...

Yeah thought of that the issue is that the hitch box allows my dogs to be inside (I have 3 total 2german shepherds and a boxer pit mix) and putting anything IN the car with them is asking for it to be TRAMPLED. I love the box as a travelling trunk for my stuff that is protected from the dogs. the element is too tall. I can't reach the top roof racks and I feel unstable with them. I'll just leave the hitch box at home. i'll survive.
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Old 04-18-2012, 08:32 PM   #20
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Yeah thought of that the issue is that the hitch box allows my dogs to be inside (I have 3 total 2german shepherds and a boxer pit mix) and putting anything IN the car with them is asking for it to be TRAMPLED. I love the box as a travelling trunk for my stuff that is protected from the dogs. the element is too tall. I can't reach the top roof racks and I feel unstable with them. I'll just leave the hitch box at home. i'll survive.
I can't tell from your pic if something is hidden behind the open door - but could you put a box on the tongue? The Thule (thanks for the link, by the way!) or any other box, that could be mounted or have a mount to fasten to? Other folks here have found it useful to have a box up there for. I would love to but have the battery/lp tank there.
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I can't tell from your pic if something is hidden behind the open door - but could you put a box on the tongue? The Thule (thanks for the link, by the way!) or any other box, that could be mounted or have a mount to fasten to? Other folks here have found it useful to have a box up there for. I would love to but have the battery/lp tank there.

just the propane tank. have considered strapping a box on there and stowing a hitch rack to then strap the box onto if I need to go hiking for the day etc. I'm still in that process of thinking but really I think I just need to get over it and deal with not having the box now and then and just not pack stuff in the car that can't get trampled.
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Old 04-21-2012, 05:45 PM   #22
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When we had a new 13 ft Scamp made up to order, we asked that a receiving hitch be installed to the trailer frame, as we wanted to carry two bikes (on the back of the Scamp) on a rack that slides into the receiving hitch. But EVERY bike rack manufacturer we talked to said NO NO NO. Since the Scamp has such minimal suspension, the bike rack manufacturers said there was far too great a risk of the rack snapping off when we hit unanticipated (but inevitable) irregularities in the road. I wouldn't want to lose the bikes -- I wouldn't want to waste the car following me even more! (We had a receiving hitch mounted on the front of our 4Runner and now carry our bikes there -- it ain't perfect, but we're a lot safer on the road!)
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I have a 4Runner too Richard... Let's see a pic of that!
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Old 04-21-2012, 06:14 PM   #24
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When we had a new 13 ft Scamp made up to order, we asked that a receiving hitch be installed to the trailer frame, as we wanted to carry two bikes (on the back of the Scamp) on a rack that slides into the receiving hitch. But EVERY bike rack manufacturer we talked to said NO NO NO. Since the Scamp has such minimal suspension, the bike rack manufacturers said there was far too great a risk of the rack snapping off when we hit unanticipated (but inevitable) irregularities in the road. I wouldn't want to lose the bikes -- I wouldn't want to waste the car following me even more! (We had a receiving hitch mounted on the front of our 4Runner and now carry our bikes there -- it ain't perfect, but we're a lot safer on the road!)
Are you saying that the bike rack mfrs were afraid of their product breaking? If so, they sure don't have much confidence in the strength of their own design. I suspect that Scamp attached the custom receiver well enough, so it doesn't say much for the racks themselves if they can't take some jarring.
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Old 04-21-2012, 06:19 PM   #25
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I posted about finding a place to put my bikes on my 13' Scamp. A lot of great replies but Kenny Strong told me about a couple great ideas with my hitch. I attached the links below. This is great for what we need. Happy Scamping and thank you everyone for the help!

Dual Hitch Extender & Other Dual Hitch Receivers - Harbor Freight Tools

Multi-Use Ball Mount
That dual hitch extender makes me think a bit. Yes, the weight of the bike carrier and bikes will add to the tongue weight. However, I recall a recent discussion about Oliver's extendable tongue and how it should reduce the trailer's effective tongue weight when extended due to the leverage effect. Well, wouldn't this hitch extender have somewhat the same effect, since it moves the trailer back about a foot? Or would it be the other way around (more leverage on the tow vehicle)? Hard to visualize which way...
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Old 04-21-2012, 06:53 PM   #26
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John M -- I suspect you want a pic of the hitch receiver mount, which I can't get you right now. But if I can send an image okay on this forum, I'll try to show the whole rig -- bikes, 4Runner, and Scamp on the road. Biggest problem is the configuration of our bikes and the 4Runner headlights. It wasn't safe to drive at night, so we always camped before dusk. I had a LandCrusier previously, and the bikes didn't trouble the headlights at all, but never pulled a trailer in those days. The biggest problem (for us) with mounting bikes behind the 4Runner was access to the back. We lived on the road for 5 months, and the bikes would have been a BIG nuisance if they had to come off every time we wanted to get in the back of the 4Runner.
The only other minor problem with the front mount is that you need a really big space to parallel park! We just took the 4Runner to a welding shop and asked. The receiver hitch has not been a problem at the Toyota dealer in the intervening 3 years.
P.S. Looks like I'll have to attach the photo in an email, as using this forum has stumped me!

Mike -- Yes, the manufacturers of the bike racks strenuously objected. We were surprised, as we had spent a lot of time looking for the best bike-hauling solution. Then the manufacturers told us that. Scamp happily installed the receiver without a word of caution, but the "fine print" recommended not exceeding a weight that was only a few pounds more than most any bike rack, never mind two bikes. So we went "forward." Richard
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Old 04-21-2012, 08:55 PM   #28
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I would say that the hitch extender puts more leverage on the tow vehicle because you are moving the ball farther away from the rear of the TV. In this month's Highway's [Good Sam's magazine] is an ad for Swagman bike racks that states they are RV approved. I have said many times that I have seen rear racks & receivers break off, and on our recent 2500 mile trip the rear rack on our Uhaul was bending with two bikes on it. The Uhaul tends to bounce a lot and items inside move around too. I use the same rack on our teardrop, but mount it on the tongue and the bikes ride much better there. Bob
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