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Old 09-09-2009, 11:41 PM   #1
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Have not been on here in a while and still working on the project. I was extremely lucky and managed to get an early style front window rock guard on Craigslist, $20 . Early meaning no outer formed edge or raised portion in the middle. Still has the original Boler decal on it. the only problem is that there is no mounting hardware at all. Wondering if someone can post pictures of one installed especially the hinges, stay open rod and locking closed hardware.
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Old 09-10-2009, 12:29 AM   #2
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Hi: RogerH... I believe the Scamp rock/gravel guard hardware and edging will fit the Boler one. Check their parts store on line and/or give them a call on their 800#.
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Old 09-10-2009, 08:19 AM   #3
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Old 09-10-2009, 08:45 AM   #4
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Geat video Kevin!
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Old 09-10-2009, 08:47 AM   #5
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Hi: RogerH... I believe the Scamp rock/gravel guard hardware and edging will fit the Boler one. Check their parts store on line and/or give them a call on their 800#.
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I don't see either on the Scamp parts site, but they probably do have more parts available if you call them.

Two notes, from the perspective of my Boler:

1) The perimeter trim on mine, which is also not the "raised" style, is a Trim-lok type product, which you can get from numerous sources.

2) Check to see what the hardware is made of if you do order it: It would be nice to have something besides the painted mild steel that was original.
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Old 09-10-2009, 11:42 AM   #6
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I don't see either on the Scamp parts site, but they probably do have more parts available if you call them.

Two notes, from the perspective of my Boler:

1) The perimeter trim on mine, which is also not the "raised" style, is a Trim-lok type product, which you can get from numerous sources.

2) Check to see what the hardware is made of if you do order it: It would be nice to have something besides the painted mild steel that was original.
Thanks for the info. Not sure where I got it but I had enough of the perimeter trim, identical to the original, in the garage. I made a quick visit to the depot after watching Kevins video but they had none of the hinges or hasps. Checked out the Scamp site and it had nothing either. Looking for closeup pictures to get something relatively similar.
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Old 09-10-2009, 01:35 PM   #7
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Hi Roger,

Here are some photos of some original 1970's Boler 13 rock-guard hardware.

This will give you an idea how it works, but I don't know that it's anything to crow about. Since it's just painted mild steel, it tends to rust/leave marks.

There are two identical sets of hardware; one on the driver's side and one on the passenger side of the rock guard, about 5" or 6" in from the side of the guard.

On the top, there is a fitting that's riveted to the trailer body that is basically a flat hook, curling up. Then in the same place on the top of the rock guard there is another fitting that is basically a slot, riveted on. Thus the slot fits over the hook and the top is held on by gravity. It's not a hinge, per se, and you can lift the rock gaurd right off the trailer. Here is a photo of these two top pieces of hardware, interlocked as they would be with the guard on the trailer:


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At the bottom of the rock guard there is an over-center type of clasp, something like there is on a ski boot, and then there is a "slot" fitting on the trailer shell.

Here are photos of the clasp, from front and side, and of the lower body slot.

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So you lower part of this clasp until it hooks into the slot on the shell, and then you "snap" it up until it goes over center and "locks."

I don't believe there was any special, dedicated hardware provided to hold this style of rock guard up. I suppose one was just meant to take it off and set it aside. That said, two dowels or sticks or what-have-you will easily prop the rock guard up by catching the trim under the bottom edge (now up in the air and out away from the trailer) and then making a 45 angle down to the belly band.

Some people have used arrows for this, and others have made fancier props (Joy, I know, for one).

I wouldn't go out of my way to get this particular hardware, as I mentioned above, but knowing what it looks like should at least give you some ideas.

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The middle of the lower three is what Scamp sells... I bought a set. One thing to be aware of, it's mild steel and will rust! I heavily coated the set I bought with spray silicone shoe "wax." It's an Amway product I've had for a while. Then I mounted the hardware and gravel guard. Don't want the rust! If possible, you may want to search for something that would work in stainless (we know that doesn't make it rustless... but it slows it down.)
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Old 09-10-2009, 04:02 PM   #9
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Hi Donna,

Just to clarify: the middle of the lower three (that you refer to) is the same as the upper; I was just showing the clasp in two different positions.

I cannot agree more on the mild steel issue; stainless can rust, but not as quickly as mild steel (even painted mild steel).

I personally prefer bronze for boat hardware, but you don't see a whole lot of bronze camper hardware!

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My bad Raya. The ones from Scamp are slightly different.

Here's the top of the gravel guard. I've completed the attachment with a small zip tie. I'll change that over to a small stainless steel pipe clamp. I leave the gravel guard on (ala Joy A.) and it creates an awning over the window. I used stainless screws/bolts on the gravel guard... humm need to clip them down!

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Hi Donna,

That hardware looks pretty much the same as the Boler, except for some minor shape differences; loop of wire vs. flat metal on the over-center clasp, etc.

Yours look so clean and shiny Makes the details easy to see.

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Old 09-10-2009, 10:27 PM   #12
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Thanks for all the pictures and info. I sort of used the hinge idea of the newer version and Kevin`s video and used some brushed nickel 1/2 inch offset cabinet hinges. I attached them with #8 stainless screws and acorn nuts inside. Now on the hunt for some stainless hasps and some form of rod to keep it open when required. I will post pictures shortly.
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Old 09-10-2009, 10:39 PM   #13
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If you search "Perko hold down clamp" you'll find a type of marine hardware that looks like it should substitute for the lower two pieces of hardware. They come in stainless steel or chrome-plated bronze. I've seen lockable (have a loop you can put something through) or non-lockable styles.

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Edited to add: This West Marine catalog page has a selection of brand/styles. Note that WM is not the cheapest shop around, so although no marine hardware is cheap, you can probably knock $10 or so off by shopping around.


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