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Old 11-22-2010, 07:34 PM   #1
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I have a 74' Boler and I find it to be a huge pain to level up the trailer with the 4 screw type jacks that I have. I would really like something that is easy to deploy and level and is quite sturdy. I thought about ordering two of the rear jacks from Scamp but I am not really sure how they work and if they will fit on the Boler. The rear bumper part of the frame is only 6 to 8 inches above the road with the trailer level.

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Old 11-22-2010, 08:01 PM   #2
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A BAL leveler will quickly level you from side to side. You then drop the nose using the tongue jack, place your 2 jacks under the rear so they are snug. Then you raise the nose using the tongue jack to level and place your front jacks snugging them up.
From there I decide how much stability I have, that is how much spring of the axle is affecting the body and will crack up each jack 1/2 to a full turn each.

It sounds like your frame is a little low though.
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Old 11-23-2010, 08:23 AM   #3
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I have a 74' Boler and I find it to be a huge pain to level up the trailer with the 4 screw type jacks that I have. I would really like something that is easy to deploy and level and is quite sturdy. I thought about ordering two of the rear jacks from Scamp but I am not really sure how they work and if they will fit on the Boler. The rear bumper part of the frame is only 6 to 8 inches above the road with the trailer level.

Any Ideas?

Although hard to find, probably antiques by now, I use an old Volkswagen jack (originally inserted in a side-slot to tip up the whole Beetle) under each rear corner of my '77 boler bumper, and a scissor-jack at the tongue.

This set-up is small, light and and microscopically adjustable.

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Old 11-23-2010, 10:44 AM   #4
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Are you really attempting to jack the trailer in the corners to level it? Side-to-side leveling is done at the tires, front-to-back leveling is done at the tongue jack. To level completely, all you really need is something to lift one wheel so it's level side-to-side, and use the tongue jack up or down to level front to back.

Like Roy I use a BAL leveler for the tire and I also use a plain ole tongue jack. To get perfectly level takes about 5 minutes. Others prefer to pull up onto chunks of wood, or blocks.

YMMV
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Old 11-23-2010, 01:15 PM   #5
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HI Donna, I level the way you do, but I still use rear corner jacks. These are really to stabilze front to rear, so we can walk around without tiping for and aft. Don't you have this problem?
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Old 11-23-2010, 02:18 PM   #6
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I have a 74' Boler and I find it to be a huge pain to level up the trailer with the 4 screw type jacks that I have. I would really like something that is easy to deploy and level and is quite sturdy. I thought about ordering two of the rear jacks from Scamp but I am not really sure how they work and if they will fit on the Boler. The rear bumper part of the frame is only 6 to 8 inches above the road with the trailer level.

Any Ideas?
I used small automobile jack stands at the rear corners of our Boler. If the site was moderately level side to side, I would lower the front using the tongue jack so that the rear end was sticking up a couple of inches. Insert the jack stands in the rear corners and raise them to just under the bumper. Raise the front tongue jack to level (front to back) and you are done. The jack stands take some of the weight off the wheels to stabilize the trailer, but leave much of the weight still on the wheels so you have more support and donít deform the frame. I usually put a couple of small squares of plywood under the jackstands so they would not sink into the turf. This procedure mostly levelled the trailer side to side as well, more or less, and I never felt that the floor was tilted even though not much attention was paid to it. It would not work on a horribly tilted site, though.

For me, I always then set a wooden crib at the front instead of the tongue jack for stability, but I have seen lots of others just stay with the tongue jack. My method gives me three stable support points, plus the wheels holding the bulk of the weight. Although the jack stands are not microscopically adjustable, I never ran into a situation where I needed more adjustment than was available on the jack stands. The stands were cheap and easy, so that I could do the whole levelling procedure in under 5 minutes by myself. The stands would just pull up to the right height, and they had a lever I could pull on to release the ratchet when I wanted to disaassemble. Disassembly was even quicker than assembly.

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HI Donna, I level the way you do, but I still use rear corner jacks. These are really to stabilze front to rear, so we can walk around without tiping for and aft. Don't you have this problem?
I don't use jacks, I use Wayne's Stabilizers. But, if I was to spend the money again, I'd get BAL Stabilizers and use a battery operated screwdriver to run them up and down.
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Old 11-23-2010, 04:36 PM   #8
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if I was to spend the money again, I'd get BAL Stabilizers and use a battery operated screwdriver to run them up and down.
I added the BAL stabilizers when I had the frame out from under my Boler and they've been great. The hand crank that comes with them works so quickly and easily that I don't even find the need to use a power driver with them.

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Are you really attempting to jack the trailer in the corners to level it? Side-to-side leveling is done at the tires, front-to-back leveling is done at the tongue jack. To level completely, all you really need is something to lift one wheel so it's level side-to-side, and use the tongue jack up or down to level front to back.

Like Roy I use a BAL leveler for the tire and I also use a plain ole tongue jack. To get perfectly level takes about 5 minutes. Others prefer to pull up onto chunks of wood, or blocks.

YMMV

Sorry Folks (and thanks, Donna, for pointing it out). A Seniors' Moment had hit me. I confused leveling with stabilizing. My volkswagen jacks are used for stabilizing. For leveling I still use the old drive-onto-different-thickness-boards system. I'm now quite good at estimating what sized board to use, depending on the position of the bubble in the leveler.

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Old 11-25-2010, 07:57 AM   #10
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I made these from some 2x6 material and they have done well for about 8-9 years now. The locking strip keeps them from flipping up if I happen to over shoot.They are getting pretty worn and I'm thinking of replaceing them and making the cross/locking strip a full 1x2. When not needed to level the trailer they can act as a support under the jacks used to stabilize the unit.
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Old 11-25-2010, 09:15 AM   #11
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Thanks for the input everybody. I almost always camp in places that it is impossible to back the trailer into so I end up pushing the thing into the final spot. Pulling the thing up onto boards would be a huge pain. I like the idea of the tire leveler but the price is too high on the BAL unit. I think I will build my own tire leveler. Will the rear jacks (18" model) available from scamp work well for stabilizing purposes once I have leveled the trailer?

Roy, my frame is most definitely too low. I am trying to work though the design for a new axle as you did in your writeup and install that this coming spring.
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Old 12-26-2010, 03:48 PM   #12
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Seems to me, if you have clearance issues and want to be able to level it with the jacks in 2 planes, a set of 4 scissor jacks would do the trick.
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BAL leveler works great and IMHO is worth every penny. The only downside for me is its size, but I'll take that tradeoff for the flexibility of being able to set up in just a couple minutes with zero guesswork. If you shop around you can find a good price. Adventure RV has them for $65 plus shipping.

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I don't use jacks, I use Wayne's Stabilizers. But, if I was to spend the money again, I'd get BAL Stabilizers and use a battery operated screwdriver to run them up and down.
That reminds me, I have some Wayne's Stabilizers sitting in my shed. I got a good deal on them a while back so I bought a bunch. Maybe someone would like them. I'll post an ad.
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