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Old 01-08-2007, 01:06 PM   #15
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I think the "window garrote" is a good idea, given the difficult access on the outside (on the Boler it's a straight shot in from any direction to any window on the sides). I believe that a similar technique is sometimes used with automotive windshields, which are typically held in by a much stronger adhesive, not just putty. Maybe someone helpful at an auto glass place would have suggestions for specific tools and techniques?
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Old 01-08-2007, 08:52 PM   #16
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Okay, came up with some other ideas. I'm a cheap shrew and don't have a spare piano wire, or even a guitar string, but I do have 75 lb test line on a fishing reel and if I couldn't find where that's buried in the garage, I know I can lay my hands on the spool of line I just recently bought for my weedwacker.

In fact, I think either the fishing line or the weedwacker line would be a better choice over the metal.....less chance of "sawing" into the fiberglass or the window frame.

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Old 01-08-2007, 10:20 PM   #17
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Cheese cutter. Go to the 99 cent store and get one of those cheese slicers that are basically a bow arangement.

If that fails, I think I can find a guitar string... somewhere... around here...
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Old 01-12-2007, 12:06 PM   #18
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Here's the last word on my window adventure. In short, I never got it out. I'm convinced the only way that window is coming out is in pieces. The clearance between the aluminum frame and the fiberglass is so small I can't even wedge a razor blade in in most places.

So, I took the easy route, which I should have done in the first place, had I been thinking. I removed the glass from the frame by pulling off the rubber trim on the inside and carefully extracted the broken glass (non-tempered, by the way). I made a posterboard template of the old glass to make sure it would slide into the frame and install correctly. I took the template to a glass shop, where they said it would take 3 days and that'll be $44, please. Apparently they are legally bound to sell only tempered glass for RV installation. Maybe this is a California thing. Now I'm waiting for the glass to arrive and hopefully it'll be smooth sailing.

BTW--Has anyone ever camped at Jalama Beach, just south of Vandenburg AFB?
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Old 01-12-2007, 01:12 PM   #19
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...Apparently they are legally bound to sell only tempered glass for RV installation. Maybe this is a California thing...
I can believe that this varies by jurisdiction, but it may also be possible that the term "RV" is the problem. In a motorhome, which is occupied while being driven, tempered glass is a reasonable safety requirement. In a trailer (which is an RV, but maybe not the kind they were thinking), I can't think of any good reason. Of course, good reasons and laws are not closely related.
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Old 01-12-2007, 02:58 PM   #20
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If I were in a campground and wind blew something through the window I would rather have tempered glass.
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Old 01-12-2007, 04:38 PM   #21
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I can believe that this varies by jurisdiction, but it may also be possible that the term "RV" is the problem. In a motorhome, which is occupied while being driven, tempered glass is a reasonable safety requirement. In a trailer (which is an RV, but maybe not the kind they were thinking), I can't think of any good reason. Of course, good reasons and laws are not closely related.

I don't think tempered glass and the safety glass required for a motor vehicle are the same thing.

If my understanding is correct vehicle safety glass is lamainted glass, which is required in all passenger carrying vehicles. Tempered glass is processed to be stronger than normal glass. If you have patio doors, they would have to be tempered glass. The extra size would need the extra strength. I would want tempered glass in my trailer since it's likely to take some road debris hits.
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When I took a broken piece into the glass shop so they could match the tint, they could tell just looking at the shard that it wasn't tempered. In addition to being stronger, I believe tempered glass doesn't shatter into tiny bits. I wasn't objecting to the extra cost of tempered (I agree with Don, it's safer), it just takes longer because, normally, the order has to be sent out to a supplier.
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As David explained, it is tempered glass which is tougher; however, it does break into safer granules, which is safer than jagged shards. Laminated safety glass (two layers of glass with a plastic layer between them) is intended to hold together, instead of shattering into any size; that is another way to keep people from being injured by the broken glass, and it also makes the window better able to protect them from whatever nasty stuff might be hitting the vehicle.

Normally, laminated is used for windshields, and tempered for other automotive windows.

Tempered glass is used for safety in sliding doors in buildings, because people tend to walk or fall into them occasionally.

I agree that tempered automotive glass might help the durability of the trailer's windows (for the reasons which Don and Byron mentioned), and it would be nice to have; however, with no risk of people walking into them, and no one in the trailer (in contrast to self-propelled RVs) during a potential collision, I don't see a need to require this more expensive product. For security, laminated glass would be even better.

I don't know what the glass shop put in my Boler window, but my guess is that it is neither tempered nor laminated.
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Laminated safety glass (two layers of glass with a plastic layer between them) is intended to hold together, instead of shattering into any size; that is another way to keep people from being injured by the broken glass, and it also makes the window better able to protect them from whatever nasty stuff might be hitting the vehicle.
I took the [b]Bathroom window out, and took it frame and all to an automotive glass shop, after my regular glass guy said he did not have glass that was both Laminated and Obscured in stock, nor could he justify buying a full sheet to do my little window. The automotive guy said that the best he could do was darkly tinted laminated glass, and I let him do the job.

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