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Old 02-12-2016, 03:34 PM   #1
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can you help me identify make and year

I am new to both this site and fiberglass campers. This past weekend we acquired a very rough, old fiberglass camper, untitled; and in order to get a title in Texas, we must provide the maker, year, and vin. We would appreciate any help, pictures attached.

I have been doing my research & thought we had a Scamp-the number stamped on tongue is E1887, but Scamp said their vins were 1-S then more numbers....though information I find on old ones says E then 3-5 #'s. They did also say they never produced a belly band like this (3 in wide thick fiberglass w/1" of it covered by metal band-see picture please).

I don't know how much of this one has been changed both in and out; it seems quite old, but is pretty bare bones inside and laid out very different from any other 13' I have seen....one bench runs from rear to door, the bench opposite the door runs from rear to past the door, and has a front stove/kitchen/closet. Taillights have been changed too looks like.

Thank you all...Teresa
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Old 02-12-2016, 07:21 PM   #2
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I could be all wrong on this but.......
Boler had reflectors on the front in 1972 I don't know who else did.
Bigfoot increased the interior height by adding extra inches at the belly band area.
No front window and a roof vent near the front..does yours have a washroom?
Tail lights?..


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Old 02-12-2016, 08:19 PM   #3
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No, just the closet with the 3/4 height door opening area next to the front stove kitchen area, at end of long bench. It is almost bare inside, dont know if it came that way or was stripped out, only 2 benches, corner closet in front drivers side, that is like the one that normally is next to the door in Scamps, and a front kitchen with only a stove, open counter and lower cabinet door, there is a spot for frig below stove.

Do you know anything about the vin/serial numbers on old boler or bigfoot. I have looked at so many pictures. The belly line does look a lot like some of the bigfoot pictures i've seen but they usually look more angular in design. ive also noticed that in most, the bench/dinette area is raised and in mine the floor level is same throughout.

I was wondering if anyone out there had a 71 or 81 scamp with a number close or like the one found on mine...what their belly band looks like too
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Old 02-12-2016, 08:31 PM   #4
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also, the tail lights are an add on kit, you can see holes or rivets were the previous ones were in the tail light picture, flat mount, not recessed, and 2 rivets or mounts at top and one at outer bottom....triangle? rectangle?
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Old 02-12-2016, 10:06 PM   #5
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I do not think it is a Bigfoot.
The doors on the Lil Bigfoot are VERY different from what is in the photo. Also the rear taillights are mounted much lower. The wheel wells on a lil Bigfoot are also not curved like that.

The VIN number in the photo appears to me to be something that was done long after the trailer left the factory. Has there been repair work done on the tongue that may have resulted in the original vin being chopped off? Do you have better photos of the tongue area & coupler? as well as photos of the drivers side of the trailer - type of windows and location of various fittings may be a clue.
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Old 02-13-2016, 10:33 AM   #6
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Just to confuse matters more some of the Boler's that were made built at Vangaurd in Kelowna did not have a drop down in the middle of the trailer either. BUT to me nothing about the interior of the trailer looks original so who knows what PO may have changed in regards to the floor. What have they used to line the walls of the trailer?

Older Scamps did have rectangular rear lights in the days before scamp started using the round wedding cake lights.

The rear bumper looks suspiciously like one from a Scamp rather than a Boler and nothing at all like whats found on a Lil Bigfoot.

On the door it looks like a Bagman type latch door handle was removed. I do not recall ever seeing an old Scamp with that type of door latch on it (could be wrong on that though) but some of the Bolers (depending on where made) did.

Due to the lack of front window and the fancy paint job and the interior redo I am wondering if someone got creative and did a fair bit of fibreglass work themselves (i.e. filled in the front window & door window). They may have decide to add a bit of height as well..... Wondering if you can see any evidence of their ever having been a front window on the trailer?

Do you have a better picture of the interior of the door? If there was a window filled in the shape of it may help ID the trailer as well.

What did the person who sold you the trailer tell you regarding the trailers history?
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Old 02-13-2016, 07:26 PM   #7
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I have been away all day and just found the latest two replies. I will post more pictures in reply to your questions tomorrow. The camper walls are down to just fiberglass, and I don't think it had evidence of front window but will look again tomorrow. The door does not have a window but as a recessed circular area inside, will send pic again tomorrow, but think it may not be original either.

I also thought based on the frame and the "E" beginning vin it was Scamp for sure.

Last night I went through all the manufacturer links on this site to see examples of all. The only ones I see with the wide raised fiberglass band (see my picture) on the upper half are surfside and trillium and maybe trailmite(?) however, both of those also have a molded sunken in area (design) on the lower 1/4 or so of the camper which mine does not have....so goose egg again!

I wonder if any other manufacturers used E and 4 digits for vin, if there are any other owners of early scamps out there with an E and 4 digit vin-so it would be close in age to this one if related, and also wonder if maybe you could purchase just a shell and finish out from any manufacturer, or if it got wrecked and got a different top put on????

As far as the past, the person I bought from just had it sitting on a deer lease for one year and did the fanciest part of the paint job. Though he lived hours away, he said it bought it from someone near my home, which oddly turned out to be someone related to a person I work with. This owner had it for a few years, also without title and just pulled it locally to use as a place to stay during chili cookoffs. He said the person he bought from told him it had been used by the military to sleep soldiers in(?). I have sanded through the paint in few places to try to find a logo, and if I made it through all layers, it was white on top and red on bottom. More pics and investigating tomorrow.

Thanks again.
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Old 02-13-2016, 07:42 PM   #8
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The portion of the hinge that's on the body, are they two bolt or three bolt?


I think it's a Surf Side....maybe
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Here is a picture of a Surfside - they all seem to have that small step all around.
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I wonder if someone assembled your trailer by using parts from at least two trailers, mainly a boler and a scamp, plus made other extensive repairs and mods? Maybe you can title it as a homebuilt?
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Here is a picture of a Surfside - they all seem to have that small step all around.
That's why I winked Paul. I know it's not a Surfside. Nor an El Macho, Trail Mite, Princess, Dolphin or Eagle. I'm stumped. BUT, it seems I've seen that belly band on an egg trailer. I'll keep looking...
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I can only read the 26 letters.... wink, wink.
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One clue may be the rear of the trolly top. It does not slope down like a Scamp.
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One clue may be the rear of the trolly top. It does not slope down like a Scamp.
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The wheel wells are filled like a Casita, but Casita didn't use that style door hinges on early 13 footers.
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