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Old 09-12-2015, 09:10 PM   #1
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Can't keep RM2193 running on propane when going down the road

So I am new to the Scamp and so far everything on my 2010 13 standard with bath has been flawless. One thing is not working though... I cannot for the life of me keep the RM2193 Fridge going in Propane mode when driving down the road. It of course works in all 3 modes including 12v but will not stay lit on propane while driving. My old RVfridge had no trouble doing it. I guess it's safer using 12v but I don't have a hot wire running from the car to the trailer battery and using 12v probably would not last very long going down the road. Any suggestions are welcome! Love the forum by the way.
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Is the metal cover in place that covers the gas burner area?
You might want to do a total cleaning of the jet, burner, and the flue above the burner including removing and cleaning the turbulator. It's all in the Dometic Manual.


One more thought, have the pressure on the output side of the LP regulator checked as well. A weak flame will work when parked, but may blow out easier. I have that same unit in my Hunter and it stays on all the time.
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Thanks Bob, I will be sure to check the regulator and clean everything.
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Old 09-13-2015, 09:33 AM   #4
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So I am new to the Scamp and so far everything on my 2010 13 standard with bath has been flawless. One thing is not working though... I cannot for the life of me keep the RM2193 Fridge going in Propane mode when driving down the road. It of course works in all 3 modes including 12v but will not stay lit on propane while driving. My old RVfridge had no trouble doing it. I guess it's safer using 12v but I don't have a hot wire running from the car to the trailer battery and using 12v probably would not last very long going down the road. Any suggestions are welcome! Love the forum by the way.

Run the line. It's not that expensive, and you don't have to rely on your propane shut off safety system to keep your rig from burning down. Hyperbolic, I know, and many folks have done this for years. Still, unsafe. Your alternator, even if you have a relatively small TV, can easily put out the less than 200 watts you need. And with 2 batteries contributing, no problem eating at restaurant for an hour or 2. I have the 2 way fridge on my Scamp 5th wheel and miss the big 3 way fridge in my old 17' Casita. Not enough to shell out a grand to replace it, but.....
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We made a trip to Alaska with our 2014 13' Scamp last summer and had the same problem with our Refer propane Pilot failing as we traveled down the road. We used the 12v hook up at times to our tow vehicle and had the switch on 12v, but this caused our battery to run down very quickly if forgotten for any length of time when stopped. So I tried an experiment and removed the Access door to the igniting area of the refer propane controls. I realized that the access door has horizontal air slots on the entire door were the problem as some of the slots are at the propane ignition area allowing direct air flow to the ignition area. So I bought a roll of 2" aluminum air conditioning tape at HD and applied it to the lower level of horizontal slots and left the upper slots open above the level of the propane ignition area.

The problem of the propane pilot blowing out went entirely away, I do not have to worry about the TV battery going down and we use the propane at ALL times when camping or traveling. I have used two tanks of fuel in 72 days of travel to and from Alaska and used no other source for power to the refer. I am happy this has fixed my dilemma and hope you take closer look at your access door to see if this is a fix you would consider. I am not saying it is the best way to solve this problem but this did and does work for us and we traveled over 15,000 miles now since doing this modification to the refer door. It keeps the air from traveling from blowing out the pilot. This is just a thought now.
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Run the line. It's not that expensive, and you don't have to rely on your propane shut off safety system to keep your rig from burning down. Hyperbolic, I know, and many folks have done this for years. Still, unsafe. .....
Not to disagree, but I will....

Using LP while underway is not unsafe nor will it substantially increase the chances of having the .01% of RV's (WAG) that have an on board fire, most of which seem to come from kitchen fires in the never cleaned exhaust vents.

In the 40+ years of RV'ing I have seen a number of RV fires, but never one due to leaving the LP ON for the refrigerator.

I, for one, would be far more concerned about that 20 gallon tank of gasoline we carry around under the TV.
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We made a trip to Alaska with our 2014 13' Scamp last summer and had the same problem with our Refer propane Pilot failing as we traveled down the road. We used the 12v hook up at times to our tow vehicle and had the switch on 12v, but this caused our battery to run down very quickly if forgotten for any length of time when stopped. So I tried an experiment and removed the Access door to the igniting area of the refer propane controls. I realized that the access door has horizontal air slots on the entire door were the problem as some of the slots are at the propane ignition area allowing direct air flow to the ignition area. So I bought a roll of 2" aluminum air conditioning tape at HD and applied it to the lower level of horizontal slots and left the upper slots open above the level of the propane ignition area.

The problem of the propane pilot blowing out went entirely away, I do not have to worry about the TV battery going down and we use the propane at ALL times when camping or traveling. I have used two tanks of fuel in 72 days of travel to and from Alaska and used no other source for power to the refer. I am happy this has fixed my dilemma and hope you take closer look at your access door to see if this is a fix you would consider. I am not saying it is the best way to solve this problem but this did and does work for us and we traveled over 15,000 miles now since doing this modification to the refer door. It keeps the air from traveling from blowing out the pilot. This is just a thought now.
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Are those the vents in the outside panel?
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Not to disagree, but I will....

Using LP while underway is not unsafe nor will it substantially increase the chances of having the .01% of RV's (WAG) that have an on board fire, most of which seem to come from kitchen fires in the never cleaned exhaust vents.

In the 40+ years of RV'ing I have seen a number of RV fires, but never one due to leaving the LP ON for the refrigerator.

I, for one, would be far more concerned about that 20 gallon tank of gasoline we carry around under the TV.

How many trailer brands recommend it? Please link to that recommendation. How many tell us NOT to do it. I respectfully disagree. On the gas tank as well.....
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"We used the 12v hook up at times to our tow vehicle and had the switch on 12v, but this caused our battery to run down very quickly if forgotten for any length of time when stopped."

Good point. I never forgot but I'm getting older every day. But I still beseech you to not go down the road with the propane on. You can listen to old timey anecdotes all day, but I would stick to the trailer sellers recommendations......
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I have owned about 12 RV's over the years, from Airstreams to Tent Trailers to several sizes of motorhomes and never saw a warning against using LP while under way on any of them. They don't have to tell you it's safe, but they would warn you that it's unsafe. What does it say in your Scamp's manual?


Add to that, many RV refrigerators are "2 Way", gas and 120 VAC, I know that Winnebago has installed them in mini-motorhomes, and how would you run those while under way?


But I have seen a lot of fires following automobile accidents due to ruptured fuel tanks.


Odds may be about the same....?


Soooo... If any one has any documentation recommending against it, lets see it.
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I have owned about 12 RV's over the years, from Airstreams to Tent Trailers to several sizes of motorhomes and never saw a warning against using LP while under way on any of them. They don't have to tell you it's safe, but they would warn you that it's unsafe. What does it say in your Scamp's manual?


Add to that, many RV refrigerators are "2 Way", gas and 120 VAC, I know that Winnebago has installed them in mini-motorhomes, and how would you run those while under way?


But I have seen a lot of fires following automobile accidents due to ruptured fuel tanks.


Odds may be about the same....?


Soooo... If any one has any documentation recommending against it, lets see it.
Is It Dangerous To Use Propane Gas While Driving Your RV?
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"You can listen to old timey anecdotes all day, but I would stick to the trailer sellers recommendations......"

No need to insult the majority that disagree with your position.

With due respect, all you are offering against using LP while under way is individuals opinions, and additional anecdotal information from the web, much of which disagrees with your position.

How about information from a manufacturer, such as what your Scamp manual indicates, and not what a "trailer seller" has to offer.
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"You can listen to old timey anecdotes all day, but I would stick to the trailer sellers recommendations......"

No need to insult the majority that disagree with your position.

With due respect, all you are offering against using LP while under way is individuals opinions, and additional anecdotal information from the web, much of which disagrees with your position.

How about information from a manufacturer, such as what your Scamp manual indicates, and not what a "trailer seller" has to offer.
Don't know about Scamp, as my used 19'er came without one. But the Casita check list for driving (in the manual) includes the line item "propane tanks off?". Pretty much says it all as far as Casita is concerned.

As for disagreement, I think those that DO run down the road that way self select against expert opinions, such as those from the "RV Fire Guy". As he said, "It's your trailer, we can't stop you", but he then gave you his best advice. I'm taking it....
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"You can listen to old timey anecdotes all day, but I would stick to the trailer sellers recommendations......"

No need to insult the majority that disagree with your position.

With due respect, all you are offering against using LP while under way is individuals opinions, and additional anecdotal information from the web, much of which disagrees with your position.

How about information from a manufacturer, such as what your Scamp manual indicates, and not what a "trailer seller" has to offer.
I forgot that Scamp uses a series of youtubes instead of or in addition to their "Owners Manual". Their recommendation is crystal clear:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=155&v=dSpBHIYgyGE
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