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10-05-2011, 02:59 AM
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Junior Member
Name: Django
Trailer: Constructam Coral 1973
California
Posts: 5
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converting belgian trailer to U.S. electrical 110 voltage
hi there,
i'm the proud owner of a 73 constructam coral trailer, made in belgium. how a girl like myself living in california came to purchase this....well, that's the allure/haphazards of craigslist, i reckon!
so the caravan (as they call them) was shipped to the u.s. from holland, has a 240 volt electrolux refrigerator, and 240 volt wiring for the interior lights inside the little trailer--my problem: get the fridge and lights and whatever else electrical to get working and converted or possibly even rewired to u.s. 110 volt. and i'm on a budget---and i'd like to salvage the existing wiring and electrolux as much as i can.
does anyone have any clue on how to solve this european/u.s. crisis in caravan conversion?? thanks for any and all your help!!!
scratching my head,
django
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10-05-2011, 03:04 AM
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Member
Name: Sean
Trailer: Bigfoot
Saskatchewan
Posts: 91
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unfortunatly, with out a transformer, they can't be rewired to work on 120, everything may (I don't know everything) have to be replaced with the 120V equivalent. The other difference is also power cycle, they will be made to work with 50Hz power, not North American 60Hz power.
The wiring inside how ever can be retained and reused provided the insulation is in good shape.
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10-05-2011, 05:27 AM
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Orcus79
The wiring inside how ever can be retained and reused provided the insulation is in good shape.
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Even that isn't certain - 240v equipment requires only half the current (amps) that a 110v item will, so while things like lights will work fine at 110v with new bulbs, the extra current they draw may be too much for the wiring.
In practice, I doubt it will be enough of a problem to overheat the wiring to lights but it would be worth checking them by hand after switching the bulbs to make sure they aren't too hot. Wiring to big power users like refrigerator or heater is another matter - they may require new wiring all the way.
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10-05-2011, 05:33 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Norm and Ginny
Trailer: Scamp 16
Florida
Posts: 7,517
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Couple of questions.
What is the fridge model number and/or wattage? (Does it have a current requirement listed on it?)
Do the bulbs have wattages on them?
Does the trailer contain a battery?
Does anly thing run off 12 volts?
Does the fridge run off propane as well as AC electricity?
Does the trailer have any other items that run off electricity?
Do you have a propane stove?
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2014 Honda Odyssey
1991 Scamp 16
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10-05-2011, 08:28 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2002 19 ft Scamp 19 ft 5th Wheel
Posts: 3,640
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220 wiring is smaller than ours. How do I know? Lived all over the world for many, many years. 50/60hz, you only have to worry about that if a motor is involved. Resistance items like lights, heater strips for the fridge don't care about hz.
I would rewire.
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10-05-2011, 09:39 AM
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Moderator
Trailer: Fiber Stream 1978 / Honda Odyssey LX 2003
Posts: 8,222
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Devil's Advocate
I've seen travel adapters for converting stuff. Most of the new scales I sell come with universal AC adapters now so they can be configured for either American or European power. So it's easier/possible to convert American stuff for use in Europe? Not so much the other way around?
Can she use a generator set to European Power?
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10-05-2011, 12:45 PM
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Senior Member
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Doh! Of course, Frederick, and Orcus79, have hit on the right solution - just put a transformer between the 110v supply and the 240v trailer (though you would need to carry a stock of 240v bulbs).
Here in Britain we use 110v tools on building sites, so we have the step-up transformer below to make 240v for equipment that needs it.
The £80 cost is about $120 and that's a pretty cheap solution. The transformer is a little under a foot cube and weighs 40 pounds.
It must be possible to buy the same thing in the US, though where?
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10-05-2011, 09:46 PM
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Junior Member
Name: Django
Trailer: Constructam Coral 1973
California
Posts: 5
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electrical
Quote:
Originally Posted by honda03842
Couple of questions.
What is the fridge model number and/or wattage? (Does it have a current requirement listed on it?)
Do the bulbs have wattages on them?
Does the trailer contain a battery?
Does anly thing run off 12 volts?
Does the fridge run off propane as well as AC electricity?
Does the trailer have any other items that run off electricity?
Do you have a propane stove?
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hi,
i bought the trailer from a lady who used the trailer dry camping; there was no battery or propane tank on it when she used it (my plan is to gradually add all these things one by one). the first thing i had my rv mechanic do was to properly re-wire the trailer electrical to my TV, a ford explorer--there's a stove (that should work off propane) and the electrolux has two switches for either 12 volt and 240 volt.
so far, the signals and 12v interior lights work off the connection to my TV; i will have to check the back of the electrolux or do some research to get the technical aspects. there is, on the outside of the caravan, a socket where i imagine one plug in the electric cable (though i have no idea what size or what kind of plug--it's definitely not american) which had my mechanic scratching his head.
that's it in a nutshell. i should post some photos as soon as i have them (it's been rainy here in l.a. the past few). so--replace the electrolux with an american 110 volt fridge? rewire all the interior lights to 110 as well? just start over? get a transformer and a EU to US adapter?
i'll hit up lex on the board as someone advised--thanks for all your help.
i'll update.
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10-06-2011, 11:25 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1999 Casita 17 ft Spirit Deluxe
Posts: 255
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Pictures would help.
Is there a place for a battery? Is there a place you could put one?
Battery compartments should be vented to the outdoors.
Is there any vestige of a propane system?
I would do a search on Electrolux and see if a 120 volt element is available for that fridge. You would probably have to email them with model and serial numbers of the fridge.
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10-07-2011, 08:15 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1979 13 ft Boler and 1987 Bigfoot 5th Wheel
Posts: 2,025
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Django, very cool trailer!
You should consider coming to the Lake Casitas Rally at the end of the month. The main area "B" is full but you can camp in "E" which is close by. Here is the thread on the rally;
http://www.fiberglassrv.com/forums/f...2-a-46039.html
I'm sure many people would love to see the trailer and help you with answers to your questions.
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10-07-2011, 09:27 AM
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Commercial Member
Trailer: 1988 Scamp 13 ft and 1982 Perris Pacer 13 ft
Posts: 822
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Quote:
Originally Posted by django
hi,
i bought the trailer from a lady who used the trailer dry camping; there was no battery or propane tank on it when she used it (my plan is to gradually add all these things one by one). the first thing i had my rv mechanic do was to properly re-wire the trailer electrical to my TV, a ford explorer--there's a stove (that should work off propane) and the electrolux has two switches for either 12 volt and 240 volt.
so far, the signals and 12v interior lights work off the connection to my TV; i will have to check the back of the electrolux or do some research to get the technical aspects. there is, on the outside of the caravan, a socket where i imagine one plug in the electric cable (though i have no idea what size or what kind of plug--it's definitely not american) which had my mechanic scratching his head.
that's it in a nutshell. i should post some photos as soon as i have them (it's been rainy here in l.a. the past few). so--replace the electrolux with an american 110 volt fridge? rewire all the interior lights to 110 as well? just start over? get a transformer and a EU to US adapter?
i'll hit up lex on the board as someone advised--thanks for all your help.
i'll update.
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Wait, hold the phone...
If your DOT running and brakes lights AND your interior 12V lighting are functional when connected to your TV, AND your existing fridge has a 12V option, why not just add an on- board battery? Other than your fridge, It's possible that you have no other high voltage requirements. If so, then no need to change any of the wiring... When shore power is available, then the transformer suggested above is your simplest option.
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10-07-2011, 06:48 PM
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#13
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Junior Member
Name: Django
Trailer: Constructam Coral 1973
California
Posts: 5
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Loren G. Hedahl
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hi loren--yes, my constructam looks like that one, but white. i posted a photo below from a dutch owner's site. mine is identical to but the one in the photo is in a bit better shape than mine.
i WILL get new photos uploaded for everyone's viewing pleasure soon.
see the constructam coral here:
http://home.kpn.nl/miii47fz/images/coral01.jpg
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10-07-2011, 07:58 PM
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Junior Member
Name: Django
Trailer: Constructam Coral 1973
California
Posts: 5
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lizbeth
Django, very cool trailer!
You should consider coming to the Lake Casitas Rally at the end of the month. The main area "B" is full but you can camp in "E" which is close by. Here is the thread on the rally;
http://www.fiberglassrv.com/forums/f...2-a-46039.html
I'm sure many people would love to see the trailer and help you with answers to your questions.
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hi lizbeth, thanks for the rally info! i've never 'rallied' before but it sounds intriguing...i'm not sure about halloween weekend, as that's filling up with kid stuff (we have a three year old) but if we can make it for one of those nights, we'll try. how fun. question--does everyone have kids or is this an adults-only event? thanks for your help and good ideas.
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10-09-2011, 01:00 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1979 13 ft Boler and 1987 Bigfoot 5th Wheel
Posts: 2,025
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It's mostly adults but kids are welcome. Drive up for Saturday, that's when the most folks are there and there is the open trailer event... even tho for most folks the whole weekend is all right for seeing trailers and visiting.
The whole thing is very low key and welcoming!
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10-09-2011, 02:25 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: BIOD (1979 and 1990)
Posts: 274
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Quote:
Originally Posted by django
hi there,
i'm the proud owner of a 73 constructam coral trailer, made in belgium. how a girl like myself living in california came to purchase this....well, that's the allure/haphazards of craigslist, i reckon!
so the caravan (as they call them) was shipped to the u.s. from holland, has a 240 volt electrolux refrigerator, and 240 volt wiring for the interior lights inside the little trailer--my problem: get the fridge and lights and whatever else electrical to get working and converted or possibly even rewired to u.s. 110 volt. and i'm on a budget---and i'd like to salvage the existing wiring and electrolux as much as i can.
does anyone have any clue on how to solve this european/u.s. crisis in caravan conversion?? thanks for any and all your help!!!
scratching my head,
django
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In 2009 we travelled in North America with our own (Dutch) trailer.
I bought a converter (like DS-1500) from Diamond Series Voltage converter, Voltage transformer, Step Down VOltage converter, step down voltage transformer, step up voltage converter
I installed it in a proper place in the trailer. Its input is the 110V line, output to the 220V in the trailer. It is okay for the Electrolux fridge.
If you want, you may install a separate line and outlet for 110V devices.
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