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Old 11-30-2012, 12:29 AM   #15
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Actually as has been reported here on prior occasions, there are lots of rivets going through the Escape body shell - mostly used to attach vents, hatches, deflectors and the awning to the body. To be fair however, this is much less than used by Scamp, Casita, etc. These other manufacturers use rivets through the shell to to secure interior furnishings whereas Escape uses strips of glassed in wood on the interior to affix the furnishings to.
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Old 11-30-2012, 07:28 AM   #16
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Or maybe it doesn't make any difference. First, to qualify, you have to have a home energy audit ( costs about $300 ). And, then to qualify for $500 grant, you have to spend about $1,000 extra for a high efficiency furnace.

I could just move out to the trailer for the winter.
Hi: Glenn Baglo... To get that $5 hun. We got a free Energy Aud. Then spent $11k on windows doors and furnace. We did get the $5 hun. tho!!! If the gubermint found out that we sprung for A/C as part of the deal we wouldn't have qualified for a dime!!!
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The only rivets I have seen on my Escape is in the front storage box. Ceiling vents and awnings are attached with screws/bolts and sealed. There are no plastic rivet caps like Casita/Scamp that need replacing in the future. Not sure if Scamp/Casita use rivets on their ceiling vents or screws on their awnings. Actually, newer ceiling vents are now installed via clamped, similar to your windows, to eliminate additional holes. Also the vent pipes are sealed. You will not find any f/g trailer that does not have some holes in the exterior, it is just those with less are better.
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Old 11-30-2012, 10:32 AM   #18
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Not sure if Scamp/Casita use rivets on their ceiling vents or screws on their awnings.
My Scamp has rivets on almost items with a few exceptions - awning has 4 very large bolts with nuts. On the rear overhead bins the bottom/side of trailer mounts are screws with caps, the top attachment points for the overhead bins are through the roof with rivets All other bins and cupboards are riveted with caps. The rear table hardware connection to the shell is screwed in. Vents on top and side of trailer, water and power outlets are all riveted.
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Old 11-30-2012, 11:04 AM   #19
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Before you decide look at the Escape 17 or 19 they may be close to the Scamp price. Escape has no rivets in the body, no rat fur either.
Escape doesn't offer anything like Scamp's deluxe interior, which BTW is not riveted in place.
At any rate,you seem to imply that rivets are somehow a disadvantage which is simply not so. The ratfur is also the best interior choice in the industry.

Don't forget these things are made to be towed...Advantage Scamp.
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True, the deluxe has no rivets, they substitute screws instead thru the hull and covered with caps, each hole is a potential leak down the road, is it not?
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Old 11-30-2012, 12:50 PM   #23
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Two things one is wise to remember. 1) Bigger is better, 2) More expensive is better.
I have a distinct leg-pulling sensation right now but just in case you're serious:

I totally disagree with this philosophy, especially the second half! There's a big difference between price and value.

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To be fair however, this is much less than used by Scamp, Casita, etc. These other manufacturers use rivets through the shell to to secure interior furnishings whereas Escape uses strips of glassed in wood on the interior to affix the furnishings to.
You have it correct. Escape by glassing in their furnishings **GREATLY** reduced the number of holes through the shell regardless of how the fewer holes they do have are filled - screws or rivets.

I suspect that anyone who has owned an fiberglass trailer for awhile and had to trace a leak or replace rivets, would agree the fewer holes in the shell the better! Glassing in furnishings is a *Big* plus side feature of an Escape.
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My '78 Trillium is entirely glass-dependent...the only mechanical fasteners on it are those that hold the outside windows/door/grates/grills on, and of course the bolts that hold it to the frame.

Has that changed with the present generation of Trilliums, and with their other offspring besides Escape, the "Outback"?

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My '78 Trillium is entirely glass-dependent...the only mechanical fasteners on it are those that hold the outside windows/door/grates/grills on, and of course the bolts that hold it to the frame.

Has that changed with the present generation of Trilliums, and with their other offspring besides Escape, the "Outback"?

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Let's see, drip edge above the door, all lights, the gas regulator, the roof fan. I don't have the awning but I think they screw that on too. Then of course there is the BELLY BAND. Raz
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Let's see, drip edge above the door, all lights, the gas regulator, the roof fan. I don't have the awning but I think they screw that on too. Then of course there is the BELLY BAND. Raz
Do tell- do you mean to say that Escape attaches all those things without hardware, too?

I think we're talking about big fixtures like cabinets, etc...not add-ons/small fixtures like lights. Sheesh!.

And who would presume that an awning would be attached by fiberglass?

Next thing you know it'll be the cupboard door hinges.....



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