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Old 10-31-2015, 03:26 PM   #15
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Hope no one thinks I am Scamp bashing but I have already spent many hours just dealing with leaks in a brand new Scamp, not to mention some other comparatively minor problems. I wonder how the quality of a new one compares with the older ones of which you speak. Perhaps 11 or 30 years ago they were more careful when building them, or perhaps my buying at the peak of the season was a factor. Perhaps I just got unlucky. One of the two leaks was very hard to detect and normally would have gone unnoticed for some time so perhaps I just paid more attention than most buyers would have. The leaks are the only critical and or difficult problems, so overall I am happy so far, although a bit let down. When I get some resolution I will be giving a full report so you can draw your own conclusions.
I feel for your shake-down blues, once you square it away, you should have many good years of trouble free service. I think that recent changes have been improvements for the most part and the new factory makes the product easier to build to standard. I doubt that you have paid more attention than the many proud owners of new Scamps.
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Old 10-31-2015, 03:51 PM   #16
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I've never had an issue with the rivets leaking; but what I have found, without a solution is condensation on the Acorn Nuts in cold weather. Usually, I just wipe them and get on with life.
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Old 10-31-2015, 04:53 PM   #17
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I don't know much, but I love my Scamp. For me, $ and availability were the problems. Not a FG trailer to be found around here, so a very good human being drove a long way to meet me and sell me his.

Yes I've had rivets to replace. Yes there were leaks there, and leaks behind the taillights and spare tire bolts. It was a learning curve for me, but I loved it and wouldn't trade my cracked egg for all the tea in China!

I've learned so much mechanically and boy I'll tell ya. Nothing like being cozy inside listening to the lake through the windows and a fresh pot of perked coffee in the morning.

I bought what I could easily tow, what I could afford, and what a kindhearted human being made possible for me.

That's all there is to it!


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Old 10-31-2015, 05:18 PM   #18
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I've never had an issue with the rivets leaking; but what I have found, without a solution is condensation on the Acorn Nuts in cold weather. Usually, I just wipe them and get on with life.
Could try a few plastic acorn nut covers on for insulation and see if it stops the condensation:

https://www.google.com/search?q=acor...utf-8&oe=utf-8
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Old 10-31-2015, 05:45 PM   #19
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Hope no one thinks I am Scamp bashing but I have already spent many hours just dealing with leaks in a brand new Scamp, not to mention some other comparatively minor problems. I wonder how the quality of a new one compares with the older ones of which you speak. Perhaps 11 or 30 years ago they were more careful when building them, or perhaps my buying at the peak of the season was a factor. Perhaps I just got unlucky. One of the two leaks was very hard to detect and normally would have gone unnoticed for some time so perhaps I just paid more attention than most buyers would have. The leaks are the only critical and or difficult problems, so overall I am happy so far, although a bit let down. When I get some resolution I will be giving a full report so you can draw your own conclusions.
I would just call Scamp and ask them for the name of a local RV dealer that will do the repairs under warranty and let Scamp pay. You did say that it was a new trailer didn't you?
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Old 10-31-2015, 08:40 PM   #20
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Could try a few plastic acorn nut covers on for insulation and see if it stops the condensation:

https://www.google.com/search?q=acor...utf-8&oe=utf-8
On our 1st 13' Scamp (our 2nd was the Deluxe model) I placed white vinyl tubing caps, cut down shorter, over the acorn nuts and never had that annoying condensation on them again.
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Old 10-31-2015, 11:17 PM   #21
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And while there is no question that Escape builds a quality product, I would suggest that the current currency exchange differential, making about a 25% effective reduction in price to American buyers, had more to do with them selling out for the next year than just the quality issue. An examination of where those rigs are going would be very telling.

Escape started a little over a dozen years ago with one trailer and made very small numbers for a while. Now they are at about 1300, making over 350 a year. So in the last years, people have been able to see one within some reasonable distance. There were probably none at most rallies until more recently, so the increase in numbers produced has no doubt helped them. I would think that almost any rally now is likely to have an Escape. By the way, they have built seven models in a few short years (and stopped some).

They are also known for their customer service. Tammy or Reace may be talking to a customer on the phone or by e-mail late at night and on weekends.

They always sold 90% of their trailers to Americans, due to population, if that is what you are asking about, so there is no change in that. But since the dollar is in Americans' favor, buyers pay up earlier now!
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Old 11-01-2015, 12:56 AM   #22
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I just bought a 16 ft. 1999 Casita Spirit Standard with front and side gouchos and I love the roomy-ness. (email me at LynnG@remax.net and I will send you photos.) I didn't want a bath on board either, Ed. (Just a porto-potty that slides under the goucho.) There is only cabinetey on the starboard side around the kitchenette. I suppose that is part of what keeps the weight down to 1600 lbs dry (I have a receipt from a weigh station.) I saw photos on here from a guy who converted a goucho to have an optional dinette set-up and plan to do that on one of the gouchos someday when it's mostly just me camping (so I can have a bed, dinette, and couch available all the time.) Right now me and the 3 girls are gonna sleep on the 4 bunks so we can leave the big rear dinette set up all the time. I feel the quality of this FGRV is high. The first night I slept in it was windy and cold and I didnt hear a whistle or feel a draft all night. It rained 3 straight days bringing it home and it is totally dry inside. The rubber seal around the door opening is loose in one corner. Other than that, this Casita seems to have held up near perfectly with high use over the last 16 years. I plan to put 16 more on her, maybe more.
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Gold stars for you on your new addition
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Hi Dave,

I'm trying to picture white vinyl tubing caps. Would you share what they are or where you found them?


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Smile Try These

Plastic Caps - End Caps - Round Vinyl Caps - Stock Cap - Round Cap - Rubber Cap

Admittedly, this picture is of a red cap, but with searching, white ones should be available. Or go kinky and use the red!

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Old 11-01-2015, 07:22 AM   #26
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I would just call Scamp and ask them for the name of a local RV dealer that will do the repairs under warranty and let Scamp pay. You did say that it was a new trailer didn't you?
Thats why I am not posting about it yet.. because that is part of the plan and I don't want to go into a long explanation until the information I can share will be of the most help to others, including what help I asked for and what help I got from Eveland's.

The short and incomplete story is that its a slight leak that only shows up after a day-long steady rain, so finding the source is 99.99 percent of the fix and will take a while, and maybe a heck of a lot of water from a sprinkler. Besides, if I take it to an RV place that means the camper is unavailable to me for an extended time, and I am planning a short trip next week as well as doing other work on it.
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Old 11-01-2015, 08:20 AM   #27
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Gordon's 99.99 % comment is so right!

My Scamp had a tiny leak around the 3-speed fan above the "dining room" table. After some rain there would be a few drops of water on the table. It was just enough to mess up the particle board. I did not like it anyway and replaced it with 1/2 inch plywood - much nicer and lighter. But back to the leak. There are only a few areas where the Scamps can leak, so it is actually not that hard to go after them. I discovered mine by climbing up a step ladder leaning against the side and massaging the caulked area around the vent frame. I found one spot, near a corner, where the caulk could be pulled away a little bit. Bingo! The .01% of the effort was pushing a little bit of sealer in there. I like the clear Lexel, it sticks to anything like the proverbial ... The fix is still good after two years, although I only test it when away from home, since I park it under my Scamport to keep it dry. Just wanted to make the point that a "surgical" repair of leaks is possible.
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Thats why I am not posting about it yet.. because that is part of the plan and I don't want to go into a long explanation until the information I can share will be of the most help to others, including what help I asked for and what help I got from Eveland's.

The short and incomplete story is that its a slight leak that only shows up after a day-long steady rain, so finding the source is 99.99 percent of the fix and will take a while, and maybe a heck of a lot of water from a sprinkler. Besides, if I take it to an RV place that means the camper is unavailable to me for an extended time, and I am planning a short trip next week as well as doing other work on it.
In part because it was a sticky, and also because there was a defective part involved, we had to take a new "Coleman" 17' sticky back to the dealer 3 times to fix several leaks.

BUT, they were able to locate the original source of the leak(s) in a matter of minutes by placing a signal generator of some sort inside the trailer and then going around the area where the leak was located until a hand held sensor lit up RED..... Dealers use a similar device to find air/water leaks in cars. Needless to say, sticky dealers are good at finding leaks, because they get a lot more practice ..... ! You can always ask if they have a leak locating device.

I don't know anything about your local dealership(s), but we usually just scheduled an appointment, dropped it off one day, and picked it up two days later.

But, then again, right now we can't afford to waste water looking for leaks... LOL
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