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Old 06-19-2009, 05:06 PM   #15
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We have been using converter boxes in the house for a year now. I had to rescan after the analog shut-down. I expect that it will be necessary to rescan at each campground for that towns channels. I didn't rescan in Flagstaff last September and didn't receive any channels. I didn't spend any time on it since we were leading a caravan and were too busy.

We need an antenna for our house, but I will wait until the fall for this job. The roof of the house is like climbing on a griddle this time of year. The antenna's plastic insulators have died of old age and it has received duct tape "first aid" while we are learning about digital.
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Old 06-21-2009, 07:38 PM   #16
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I just found some good answers on AntennaWeb to my previous questions. I still don't know what antenna I should get, but I am taking the UHF antenna back. ... But my satellite signals usually cut out in heavy rain, so the antenna was a very good back-up for tornado reports.
We tried several over-the-air UHF antennas made by RCA and not one of them worked well. The trial was done in our house with a small Digital TV (Haier) -- we live about 45 miles from the heart of Atlanta where the TV towers are. Depending on how far away you are when you are trying to get a signal, your experience may vary. Getting a good signal in one area and not in another is a big possibility.
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Old 06-30-2009, 09:55 AM   #17
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Digital TV Update:

We finally broke down and just bought a new television. It's an upgrade in several ways - digital receiver, more accessible dvd player, and larger screen size.

I was surprised when hooking it up yesterday to my Bigfoot antenna that I got way better reception than I used to get on over-the-air analog. I got five crystal-clear stations. On the old analog broadcasts I was getting one clear station and two snowy, using the same antenna in the same location (my backyard RV pad).

I never did take back the UHF antenna I bought at Walmart. I set it on a high shelf inside the house yesterday and tried it with the new television, too. I got eight clear stations. Including one station that is supposed to be broadcasting in VHF.

So in this particular area, I guess the digital transition has not adversely affected the ability to receive over-the-air signals as it has in some other locations.

I am still chagrined that the Sylvania LCD that I bought 2 1/2 years ago is obsolete. It was $300 and now I probably can't even give it away. I wish I had known then what I know now about analog and digital tuners.
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Old 06-30-2009, 10:29 AM   #18
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I am still chagrined that the Sylvania LCD that I bought 2 1/2 years ago is obsolete. It was $300 and now I probably can't even give it away. I wish I had known then what I know now about analog and digital tuners.
It still works. If you have cable, it will work. with the antenna, a $40 converter box will make it usable even with an antenna! Can you put it in the spare bedroom?
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Old 06-30-2009, 10:49 AM   #19
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DON"T Buy a Apex DT250 DTV Converter Box from BEST BUY
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Old 06-30-2009, 02:41 PM   #20
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Gene - Yeah, I know the old tv can still be used with other inputs. We were using it in the trailer with a satellite dish until we just bought the new one. I was seriously thinking about getting a converter box, but I kept hesitating to try to prolong the life of old technology. The old tv also has a built-in DVD player so I can use it to watch movies when I'm on the treadmill or something.

Kevin - The converter box I came closest to buying was the one at Best Buy. What is it that gave you problems?
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When you push the remote it jumps forward two channels sometimes.
Also when you want to see whats on next, instead of going forward to the next tv program , it it goes backwards until you hit the remote button about 3 times.
STAY AWAY FROM THIS ONE.
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Old 06-30-2009, 10:10 PM   #22
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We bought our converter box at Best Buy also. It is junk.
Some stations are distorted, go off and on, and just are so annoying that we don't even watch that TV any longer. We had it connected since Christmas, and was hoping things would improve in June, but they did not. We have 2 or 3 of the same station with different programs, some chanels just fade in and out. I HATE this new system.
I can get NOTHING on my new TV in the camper. I sure would like to go back to the good ole days.
Technilogy sucks!
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Old 06-30-2009, 10:35 PM   #23
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We bought our converter box at Best Buy also. It is junk.
Some stations are distorted, go off and on, and just are so annoying that we don't even watch that TV any longer. We had it connected since Christmas, and was hoping things would improve in June, but they did not. We have 2 or 3 of the same station with different programs, some chanels just fade in and out. I HATE this new system.
I can get NOTHING on my new TV in the camper. I sure would like to go back to the good ole days.
Technology sucks!
You are right!
We in SF bay area are held up because the Sutro Tower is being worked on until October!
They said "Are you Ready" repeatedly. THEY were not ready!
Where's old Frank Roosevelt when we need him? ( When the FCC was started) I. See no reason that TV should cost me money when they load it up with all the commercials.

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You are so right Jim, we are paying to watch TV commercials 1/2 the time we have the TV on ( if using cable or dish). That just does not seem right, does it! I really do not care to see all those commercials. Our TV should be free, as the commercials are paying for it.
Yep, technology sucks!
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When the government coupons were first offered, I got one and bought an RCA DTA800 Digital TV Converter.
I'm using it with a WINEGARD Hideaway Model: HA-0130 Antenna.

The Digital TV Converter has a set-up menu option to monitor signal strength with an on-screen bar graph plus an audio tone that gets higher in pitch as the signal gets stronger.

I can bring up the signal strength menu and turn the TV volume up, then go outside and slowly rotate the antenna while listening to the tone to find the direction that has the strongest signal. Then I go back inside and use the channel scan menu to tune in the stations.

Here in San Diego, the ABC and CBS affiliates' transmitters are northwest of me on Mt. Soladad. The NBC, FOX, and PBS affiliates' plus an Independent Station's transmitters are east of me on Mt. Miguel. The CW (English) affiliate's plus several Spanish networks' transmitters are south of me in Tijuana.

At the highest signal strength according to the digital converter, I get the Mt. Miguel and Tijuana signals perfectly.
I do not get the Mt. Soladad signals.
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Old 07-26-2009, 06:19 PM   #26
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The tvfool website has a good online tool to show you what stations you might receive in any
location. I think it works a bit better than the antennaweb site.

The FCC did the consumer a disservice when it comes to the virtual channels. The TV station gets to keep its identity, but the consumer has no idea what channel the station really is broadcasting on and thus no idea as to what they need for an antenna. On the tvfool website results, look at the real channel column to see what you will need for an antenna.

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When the government coupons were first offered, I got one and bought an RCA DTA800 Digital TV Converter.

I can bring up the signal strength menu and turn the TV volume up, then go outside and slowly rotate the antenna while listening to the tone to find the direction that has the strongest signal. Then I go back inside and use the channel scan menu to tune in the stations.
That is very similar to what my dad did in the 1950's when we lived 60 mi. north of Detroit to pull in "Hockey Night In Canada"!
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We have local interference, from a nearby ham radio operator I suspect. Every evening and sometimes on the weekends it causes the digital SNR to drop below -100 DBM. Normal SNR is -18 to -25 DBM

I use the RCA DTA's signal strength indicator to monitor when the signal to noise just drops out. Its frustrating when we are so close to the transmitters (6.8 miles as indicated by tvfool website) and can't watch television.
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