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Old 05-18-2015, 02:25 PM   #15
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Learning the hard way that a good inspection is worth it's weight in gold...esp if you know what to look for.
So far we have had to replace a bent axle and repaired the cracks in the frame caused by the bent axle; new tires and bearings, new jack on the tongue; redone the rear windows; and had a new regulator put on the gas line.
Today, while giving the rear dinette seat storage areas are really good clean I discover that there is rotten wood underneath them.
One of the previous owners had done some major modifications to the trailer including putting in a removable shower in the kitchen area complete with hot water. At some point someone removed the right front dinette seat and built a poorly designed replacement that now needs to be redone. We still have to reseal two windows and remove the leaking belly band.
Glad I think of this as my mobile cottage and love it or I might throw my hands up in despair. Also glad that we are somewhat handy.
What is the best way to deal with this rotten wood issue? It will have to wait to the fall. For now I will paint it with "stop rot".
The extend of the rot needs to be determined and the source...first is it from termites, water or dry rot...is the underside of the floor exposed to the ground? I just replaced all the floor in my 71 Boler, the lower floor had severe rot covered with newer plywood, the upper floors had rot it spots which I could have cut out and patched with filler/fiberglass but I choose to replace all the floors...if your trailer is like mine, the floors are glassed in to the outer body...replacing them is tricky...I cut the top layer of glass with a flush cut dremel tool & blade leaving the underside of the glass still intact to the underside of the floor. I did this on purpose so I could peel up the floor off the lower glass and use it as a lip to lay the new floor on to. I was careful to remove the old wood so I could use it as a template for cutting the new wood. When doing this mark where the body meets the frame for reference when reinstalling the new floor. I recommend replacing it with pressure treated or if using untreated then glassing in the entire underside or some type of treatment to prevent exposure to elements is needed...my reason for doing this is I am doing a complete restoration down to the frame. Axle, frame & body were in good shape overall but they all got needed work done, but nearly all the wood in our 71 model had rot including inside fiberglass door. Here is the post of our restoration project: Our 1971 13' Boler mods
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Old 05-18-2015, 02:33 PM   #16
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Ha! Like an idiot, I bought a nearly new trailer - that had been in a minor accident. It took me a long time to figure that one out. It all came together when someone (not who we bought it from) finally gave me the bad news. I paid a pretty penny for it too.

Ya live and learn.

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Old 05-18-2015, 03:21 PM   #17
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My Scamp needed a lot, like a new axle (which immediately led to new wheels & tires), refrigerator, A/C, frame crack repaired, etc., etc. But I did all the work myself and feel good about going down the road with brand new bearings, brakes, tires, and a repaired frame. I do have some soft, “punky” floor wood under the front seat from a front window leak (I think). It is not terrible and can wait until I tear out that area to do the front dinette mod, someday, not too soon.

I started a thread many, many months back on perceived values on our FGRVs. And I will state again that I think that prices generally have risen PAST the real value for these units considering all the repairs required as they age. If I had not had all the equipment and experience to do the axle on my Scamp that alone would have put me well over the top of what my unit is worth. As is, I feel I am close to even or maybe a little over-invested in my Scamp. In other words, I can’t get what I have in my Scamp. But I ain’t selling either so I guess it does not really matter. Damn the cost, we are going camping!
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Old 05-18-2015, 06:54 PM   #18
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What is the real vs perceived value. I am pretty sure I paid more than I should have for my 16' Scamp. I have learned a lot in the intervening time.
I have learned about rotten floors, cracked frames, bad axles, etc.
If you buy an old unrestored or perhaps restored egg you are buying a kit that first has to be cleaned up to start.
On my project when I am finished I believe I will have a "Scamp" better than new. However it is a lot of work and $$$. I will have less than a new one and it will probably be if not better then more what I want it to be.
Originally I wanted to make it light, but now I am working to make it just, what I want for long road trips and comfortable for the two of us.
Toward that end the floor is fiberglassed top and bottom, new cabinets, refrigerator (old, but new to us) sink and good fixtures.
I am also trying new things like tankless water heater, Mini-split Heat pump, and twin beds so one doesn't have to crawl over another at night.
With luck I will have it finished with new axle, 14" tires, new wheel wells, cabinets, beds, water heater, heat pump and basically everything inside and under the shell with a new coat of paint to cover the outside.
Other than that just like I bought it!
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Old 05-24-2015, 04:06 PM   #19
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Yeah same here. Every time we do something we find something else that needs fixing. Very discouraging BUT I KNOW it will be worth it's just getting hubby to get to believing that. We've not done anything to ours since we pulled the awning off. Well I take that back I did put some old english on her walls and she drank it up. He told a friend he was hoping to have it ready by fall but I just don't know. We've not hooked it up either to see what works and what doesn't nor have we added water to anything to see if the pump works or the hot water heater or if we have any leaks. LOTS left to be done and I have no clue. OH and those hubs have got to be tended to. So much to do so little time. ;-)
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Old 05-26-2015, 09:50 AM   #20
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When buying ANYTHING 38 years old, even much younger, one must anticipate many surprises.
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Old 05-26-2015, 10:07 AM   #21
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While on this subject, I do have to wonder at times. IF you really want to camp, why would you buy a MAJOR "fix-up" project? You're going to spend SOOO much time (and not to mention $$) at home. My idea would be to buy something new at the most economical cost. THEN, if you're the "fixer-upper" (to which I ABHOR), then find an old one and do it on the side as a hobby when yer home and CANT go camping.

Life is WAYYYYY too short for me to tie myself down when I can be out enjoying camping!! I know I'll be blasted for my way of thinking but so be it. But understandably, if it's a financial restriction, it makes sense and we have to do what we have to do to survive.
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Old 05-26-2015, 10:23 AM   #22
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yep I know this.
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Old 05-26-2015, 11:42 AM   #23
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I bought my Boler because it was "vintage" and because it was a project. Yes, I want to camp first and foremost but I love working on it and putting all the personal touches into it that make it unique.
My Design Supervisor and I talk regularly about the monetary investment and the value of the trailer. I have kept all of my receipts from this project but I don't feel the need to add them up (the Design Supervisor thinks I should!) We made changes because we wanted too, not because we had to. I replaced the interior carpeting/headliner because we didn't like the colour. I put a new axle on because I wanted brakes and I don't care if it is overkill. I painted the exterior because I wanted to, and I love it!
So to reiterate what others have said. Not all renos are about the street price of the camper, but about the aesthetic. I wouldn't sell my trailer, not now.
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Old 05-26-2015, 01:07 PM   #24
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While on this subject, I do have to wonder at times. IF you really want to camp, why would you buy a MAJOR "fix-up" project? You're going to spend SOOO much time (and not to mention $$) at home. My idea would be to buy something new at the most economical cost. THEN, if you're the "fixer-upper" (to which I ABHOR), then find an old one and do it on the side as a hobby when yer home and CANT go camping.

Life is WAYYYYY too short for me to tie myself down when I can be out enjoying camping!! I know I'll be blasted for my way of thinking but so be it. But understandably, if it's a financial restriction, it makes sense and we have to do what we have to do to survive.
I think it depends on what you like. Some people like to camp but also enjoy the renovation and repair part of it -- like a hobby. For us, we wanted trouble free because we're not into fixing. So, we bought new.
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Old 05-26-2015, 01:28 PM   #25
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Same here in a way Bryan. On the OTHER hand, my wife tells others "He's made a hobby out of our Scamp." Not to sound contradictory to my previous email, but I HAVE enjoyed "tinkering" with it. Nothing major, but additions. Now some I DONT like because it's some things Scamp should have done to start with. But I wont dwell on those.

A few I have enjoyed: Adding a digital thermostat to my A/C w/Heatstrip- works WONDERFULLY for controlling the inside temp; I added "spindles" to the -what I consider ugly- wrought iron supports beneath the cabinet; tank monitors and alot of other things. But they never tied me down. I study them out during the winter months of work and no travel. Then I would usually pick the early months Feb/March to do the mods and have them ready for the first "spring run"!


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I think it depends on what you like. Some people like to camp but also enjoy the renovation and repair part of it -- like a hobby. For us, we wanted trouble free because we're not into fixing. So, we bought new.
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Same here in a way Bryan. On the OTHER hand, my wife tells others "He's made a hobby out of our Scamp." Not to sound contradictory to my previous email, but I HAVE enjoyed "tinkering" with it. Nothing major, but additions. Now some I DONT like because it's some things Scamp should have done to start with. But I wont dwell on those.

A few I have enjoyed: Adding a digital thermostat to my A/C w/Heatstrip- works WONDERFULLY for controlling the inside temp; I added "spindles" to the -what I consider ugly- wrought iron supports beneath the cabinet; tank monitors and alot of other things. But they never tied me down. I study them out during the winter months of work and no travel. Then I would usually pick the early months Feb/March to do the mods and have them ready for the first "spring run"!
Yes, I agree. Don't get me wrong - I do "mods" quite often in my Escape, but not 'repairs'. I'm not sure if there's that much difference, but I like modifying, and I hate fixing. Here's a mod I did yesterday for example - installed a gas operated single pedestal for the dinette instead of the stock poles and sockets:
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Old 05-26-2015, 01:46 PM   #27
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Looks very nice and solid! You're exactly right...again. Mods are fun; repairs are NOT.

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Yes, I agree. Don't get me wrong - I do "mods" quite often in my Escape, but not 'repairs'. I'm not sure if there's that much difference, but I like modifying, and I hate fixing. Here's a mod I did yesterday for example - installed a gas operated single pedestal for the dinette instead of the stock poles and sockets:
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Back on topic, I would only echo to the OP what others have said. Prioritize your repairs, and take them one at a time. The good news is that your trailer will get a little better each time!
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