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03-29-2013, 11:26 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Linda
Trailer: '77 Scamp
California
Posts: 630
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Exterior rubber trim
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Originally Posted by GMike A
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The website that Mike posted has a "U" shaped rubber gasket that looks a lot like the stuff that trims the bottom of my Scamp exterior shell. Can anyone tell me if that's the right stuff or is there another product that I can use to replace the damaged rubber trime pieces around the bottom of the Scamp? Thanks!
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03-29-2013, 11:39 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Linda
Trailer: '77 Scamp
California
Posts: 630
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Here's a picture of the trim I'm talking about. Do all older Scamps have this trim?
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03-29-2013, 12:08 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Trillium 4500
Posts: 2,050
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Yes and you can order it from Scamp.
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03-29-2013, 12:14 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Norm and Ginny
Trailer: Scamp 16
Florida
Posts: 7,517
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2014 Honda Odyssey
1991 Scamp 16
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03-29-2013, 12:29 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Trillium 4500
Posts: 2,050
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Dang I thought you found some good weatherstripping.
I could go for that one with the chrome strip on it.
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03-29-2013, 01:13 PM
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Senior Member
Name: bob
Trailer: 1996 Casita 17 Spirit Deluxe; 1946 Modernistic teardrop
New York
Posts: 5,415
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is it the same seal that was just recommended for the Uhaul doors, that was available from perfectfit?
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03-29-2013, 04:27 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Linda
Trailer: '77 Scamp
California
Posts: 630
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Thank you for the great info as always!
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03-30-2013, 10:52 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Jared
Trailer: 1984 19' scamp
Kansas
Posts: 1,610
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I found some at o'reillys auto that seems to work. Speaking of which, I need to get more, I was 2' short, I hate Murphy.
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03-30-2013, 04:06 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Norm and Ginny
Trailer: Scamp 16
Florida
Posts: 7,517
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Jared. Was there a part number?
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2014 Honda Odyssey
1991 Scamp 16
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03-30-2013, 05:08 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1988 16 ft Scamp Deluxe
Posts: 25,707
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Murphy and I are on a first name basis. It usually entails five or six trips to the big box store to complete a simple project and costs twice as much as budgeted. Two feet or two inches, it's still aggrevating.... I fill your pain. File this under "lessons learned."
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Ten Forward - 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Double Yolk - 1988 16' Scamp Deluxe
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03-30-2013, 10:51 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Jared
Trailer: 1984 19' scamp
Kansas
Posts: 1,610
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Quote:
Originally Posted by honda03842
Jared. Was there a part number?
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Not that I have. If I remember, I'll get some in the morning and check it.
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03-31-2013, 12:34 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Russ
Trailer: Scamp 16' side dinette, Airstream Safari 19'
California
Posts: 588
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I have tried replacing my Scamps foam door gasket with new material ordered from them. It only lasted for a few weeks and migrated sideways. The adhesive let the gasket slide sideways. I then fabricated an aluminum channel which I pop riveted to the door frame surface using sealer underneath. I then stuck new foam gasket inside the channel. The channel was 1/8" deep, so held the gasket from sliding sideways. (NOT!) The gasket still slid right over the channel flange! Doh...
I then had to rethink the problem which would have been simple using a cad program to see what was happening. I don't have a cad program, but have plenty of Mc Donald's napkins, a compass and ruler. After a few minutes I could fully see the problem. It happens due to the way the door wraps around the body contour like airplane doors do, and the position of the hinge axis. While looking down from the top of the door straight down through the hinge axis you can model the path of the door gasket as the door opens. You will see that the the door gasket near the middle of the door lifts off the trailer side at a fairly steep angle due to the closeness of the gasket to the hinge axis. But the gasket near the door top and bottom where it wraps inward scrubs sideways when the door is opened. This is caused by the increased distance between the gasket and hinge axis, and that the gasket is well inboard of the hinge center. The door top and bottom sections are where the adhesive won't hold the gasket in place. Not a coincidence. I drew up a model with the hinge axis relocated farther away from the door edge and very close to the trailer side. (I used a new Mc Donald's napkin) The new model significantly steepens the withdraw angle of the gasket, which may in practice solve the sliding gasket syndrome.
When I find some time I will fabricate some new hinges and re-mount my door. I'll keep y'all posted how it works.
Russ
Photo of channel experiment below.
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03-31-2013, 07:11 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Mike
Trailer: 2001 Spirit Deluxe 17" K5NAN
Texas
Posts: 688
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Wow Russ awesome explanation. Guess it wouldn't happen if the door were hinged on the other side. Will definitely follow this thread. I went to McDonalds today and they were handing out paper towels as they had run out of Napkins.
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K5NAN
"Miss Adventures"
If you Rest, You Rust
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03-31-2013, 09:34 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Trillium 4500
Posts: 2,050
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jared J
Not that I have. If I remember, I'll get some in the morning and check it.
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Are you talking about the hard trim or the soft weatherstripping?
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03-31-2013, 11:11 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 92 16 ft Scamp
Posts: 11,756
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ruscal
I have tried replacing my Scamps foam door gasket with new material ordered from them. It only lasted for a few weeks and migrated sideways. The adhesive let the gasket slide sideways. .
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LOL the Sliding Gasket Syndrome! Know it all to well which is why I want to use the rubber gasket. Have replacing the foam 3rd times in six years and its again on my spring todo list!! Might have to just call out to Escape this week to find out what the product number and name is that they use!
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03-31-2013, 11:15 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Trillium 4500
Posts: 2,050
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Carol H
LOL the Sliding Gasket Syndrome! Know it all to well which is why I want to use the rubber gasket. Have replacing the foam 3rd times in six years and its again on my spring todo list!! Might have to just call out to Escape this week to find out what the product number and name is that they use!
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If it works let us know.
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03-31-2013, 11:58 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: No Trailer Yet (want 13 ft fiber glass
Posts: 2,316
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That's the very reason that I applied the DOOR seal ON the DOOR. Works great and no leaks. If you look at my posts you can see the inner seal only goes part way around the body door opening, butting up against the original trim piece, so the DOOR seal can come in contact without ripping off a body seal.
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03-31-2013, 12:28 PM
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#39
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Senior Member
Trailer: 92 16 ft Scamp
Posts: 11,756
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David what you have used is what I am after and as I recall looks very much like what Escape uses (could be wrong on that though). Only problem is the website you gave doesnt seem to turn anything up as T-2 on a search and when I went to two automotive supply stores locally they had no idea as to what I was talking about when I asked them for T-2 type gasket. :-(
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03-31-2013, 12:50 PM
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#40
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Senior Member
Name: Francesca Knowles
Trailer: '78 Trillium 4500
Jefferson County, Washington State, U.S.A.
Posts: 4,669
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This looks like a pretty good match...
Metro Molding Door Seal
Francesca
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