Door Lock

[Brian B-P]

Bargman L-400 lock... the inside tour:

The rest of the photos are my old lock, since I didn't take the new one out again for photos. The inside plate and attached handle shown are the new ones, because I found that the handle shaft in my replacement lock was too long - apparently intended for a thicker door. The old inside parts mated up with the new main/outside parts just fine.

First, there's the whole lock, just as it comes out of the door, then with the lock lever and associated fastening hardware (washer and spring clip) removed. The only working parts are

• the handles (inside one has attached cam)
• the bolt on the end of that sliding part I labeled "bolt slide"
• a spring to extend the bolt
• the lock lever
• the lock cylinder, with a special end
• a detent spring (and presumably ball, it's missing from my old one)

Two more detail photos of the lock mechanism (sorry first one's fuzzy) showing:

1. the lever swung to the locked position to block slide movement, and held there by the detent spring engaging one of the "dents" in the lock lever
2. the lever swung to the unlocked position, and held there by the detent spring engaging the other "dent"

When the key is turned one half-turn, one of the round pins on the lock cylinder catches the half-round notch in the lock lever and moves it to the other position. Mine was erratic, because the post on which the lock lever pivots is broken, and the detent ball (I assume) is missing - nothing kept the locking lever engaged or out of the way. I couldn't get a clear photo, but there seems to be some sort of clip between the grey pin-end on the lock cylinder and the cylinder itself, but I don't know how to take that apart (and didn't need to). It is apparent in Bargman's Door Lock Cylinder and Keys web page; it is the lower of the two lock cylinders shown.

Finally, in case it is not apparent from the other photos (I played with the parts to see how they worked together), one more photo of the parts assembed outside of the door, showing how the cam on the inside handle shaft fits into the bolt slide, so when the handle is turned (either way from horizontal) the bolt is pulled back. The outside handle pokes through to its own slot on the same sliding part, so both are equally blocked by the locking mechanism.




The parts all have cast or stamped part numbers, including:

• 10-40-010 main body
• 10-40-020 outside handle
• 10-40-030 inside plate
• 10-40-040 inside handle
• 10-40-081 cam on inside handle shaft
• 10-40-091 inside lock lever

Roy, I did not remove the outside handle from the main body (not sure how that would be done), and I did not even notice any rivets (let alone remove them) so you are ahead of me, and/or have a unit with some customizations.

Bargman's site also shows Door Lock Repair Kit L-400, but it seemed to contain only those parts which are not a problem for me.

[CindyL]

The locksmith was able to make a key to our '78 Burro. The lock looks like the lock in the picture; he just came the house and made 2 new keys. I anticipate future problems, though. It is touchy to use. The locksmith said that the mechanism inside is worn.

Cindy

[james kent]

I also have a Bargeman type. It broke while we were on a trip.The latching lever simply wore out. I ended up at CTC and purchased a small lock which I installed in the edge of the door while in camp, separatly from the door latch. It's been there several years now and there's been no problem. It just looks like it is double locked.

[Deb in MN]

Well, Since our Scamp door has issues, too---- we had to bungee cord it during transport because it would not stay shut. The door or hinges or whatever has moved over the years, so the latch thingy doesn't catch enough of the striker plate thingy to keep it shut!

I figure BOAT hardware has to be more securable than any typical RV hardware! So when I go to look for something to replace my door latch, I'm going to search Boat Hardware? Something like this for example: http://www.southco.com/product/class.aspx?cid=7409

I think one could spend HOURS looking at marine hardware! But I'll bet there is something out there that would work like a charm.

[ericmarlo]

Well, Since our Scamp door has issues, too---- we had to bungee cord it during transport because it would not stay shut. The door or hinges or whatever has moved over the years, so the latch thingy doesn't catch enough of the striker plate thingy to keep it shut!

I figure BOAT hardware has to be more securable than any typical RV hardware! So when I go to look for something to replace my door latch, I'm going to search Boat Hardware? Something like this for example: http://www.southco.com/product/class.aspx?cid=7409

I think one could spend HOURS looking at marine hardware! But I'll bet there is something out there that would work like a charm.

Along the same lines of this topic, I currently have No Key for my SurfSide camper.

I just came back from a quick trip to our local Window & Door guy in our town and he didn't even want to try to make a key for my Bargman lock from my Surfside. I handed him the Ziplock bag with all of the pieces and asked - Can you make a set of keys for me and he said, Try a real locksmith in the city ?

I guess that's what I'll have to do. My part number is 10-40-010 and it is a Bargman

[The Hobo]

I believe I found a place that sells the locks.
I'm trying to see if there's a way to change just the lock cylinder itself.

I have mine completely apart,
but can't seem to figure out how to remove the cylinder itself.

Anyone have any idea,??

Thanks.

[The Hobo]

I figured out how to remove the cylinder from the main base assembly.
It's really quite simple.
I found someone who has some brand new vintage trailer locks.

[lynneh]

I figured out how to remove the cylinder from the main base assembly.
It's really quite simple.
I found someone who has some brand new vintage trailer locks.

Hello Ulysse,

Welcome to the forum. Is your '79 Triple-E unit a Surfside Trailer? Several of us on this forum have Surfside trailers -- mine is a '76.

If you have information on sources for vintage Bargman locks, we'd be interested in learning more about that. Many of these older trailers are in need of replacement parts for their locks.

--Lynne

[The Hobo]

Hello Ulysse,

Welcome to the forum. Is your '79 Triple-E unit a Surfside Trailer? Several of us on this forum have Surfside trailers -- mine is a '76.

If you have information on sources for vintage Bargman locks, we'd be interested in learning more about that. Many of these older trailers are in need of replacement parts for their locks.

--Lynne

I was trying to post a link,
and also a pic of our Surf Side trailer, but I keep getting an Error,??

I restored our trailer to match our "52" Ford P/U, and did a ton of renovations on the trailer.
In fact, I will be doing a few more upgrades hopefully starting in another couple of weeks(still working on the "52" right now).

I can,t even load the pic in my avatar,????

[Donna D.]

I was trying to post a link,
and also a pic of our Surf Side trailer, but I keep getting an Error,??

I can,t even load the pic in my avatar,????

Your pictures and avatar are probably too big.

<blockquote>Your avatar must be no bigger than 75 pixels by 75 pixels in size. Uploaded avatars from your computer must be no larger than 8 KB.

Pictures: The reason is because your image is too large for the server, in other words it is over the 600 pixel limit.

The reason we recommend 600 pixel size pictures is because an internet browser only sees up to 72 dpi. Very little detail will be lost (if any) in using smaller images.</blockquote>

[The Hobo]

Your pictures and avatar are probably too big.

<blockquote>Your avatar must be no bigger than 75 pixels by 75 pixels in size. Uploaded avatars from your computer must be no larger than 8 KB.

Pictures: The reason is because your image is too large for the server, in other words it is over the 600 pixel limit.

The reason we recommend 600 pixel size pictures is because an internet browser only sees up to 72 dpi. Very little detail will be lost (if any) in using smaller images.</blockquote>

I clicked on the jpg , and chose the smallest,
but it still won,t work.??

[Donna D.]

I clicked on the jpg , and chose the smallest,
but it still won,t work.??

Check out these tutorials: Using Avatars

Windows XP Picture Resize Tool

Photo Upload Tutorials

[The Hobo]

Hello Ulysse,

Welcome to the forum. Is your '79 Triple-E unit a Surfside Trailer? Several of us on this forum have Surfside trailers -- mine is a '76.

If you have information on sources for vintage Bargman locks, we'd be interested in learning more about that. Many of these older trailers are in need of replacement parts for their locks.

--Lynne

I bought 3 extra locks from a guy on e-bay that he had left(new old stock).
If anyone is interested in a brand new [b]Bargman lock, they can p.m. me for more info..
They come with 2 new keys,and a key code tag.
I just installed mine on today, and now works awesome.!!!

[Rick kl]

I bought 3 extra locks from a guy on e-bay that he had left(new old stock).
If anyone is interested in a brand new [b]Bargman lock, they can p.m. me for more info..
They come with 2 new keys,and a key code tag.
I just installed mine on today, and now works awesome.!!!

I checked on Ebay and found this brand new lock, but I don't think I will be buying this one!
http://cgi.ebay.ca/NOS-new-BARGMAN-L-400-D...A1%7C240%3A1318

He does have an offer

[Alf S.]

Hi: All... Looks like solid gold to me!!!
Alf S. North shore of Lake Erie

[The Hobo]

Here is a pic of the lock and keys.
I have 2 ,(and also 1 for i believe a 300 model).






I can have these installed for you if needed.

[Arthur Santiago]

I found one!!!! Yippy!!!!! Bargman L-400

He has another one but used......

http://www.fiberglassrv.com/board/in...howtopic=33414

[MikeCM]

Odd your locksmith wasn't interested. When mine needed a new key, he made one from the lock and serviced it to like new. My privacy thing was iffy too.

It cost a whole ten bucks,

Gina, I just have to say thanks. My trailer had the original Bargman L400, but no keys. I have been searching for a reasonably priced replacement for months without luck. So I searched for other possible solutions. I found this old post, removed my lock and had a locksmith make me a set of keys. The locksmith took 24 hours, made three keys and charged me $15. Quite a bargain compared to a replacement, feel like a fool for not starting there. So thanks.

Mike

[floyd]

My lock has bit the dust. Any ideas of changing from a Boler lock and modifying the system. Or advise also where these replacement locks are vailable.

Thanks

Errol

I'm assuming you have a13?If so you could order a new locset from Scamp, or...
Here are pictures of the new lock system on Eggy-Sue [the pull-it surprize]
Found on e-bay for $34 incl. shipping......

[Ann B]

do you think your new lock set from Scamp will fit a Boler with a Bargman L400?