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Old 05-11-2009, 09:05 PM   #1
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Hi all, I have a just bought a 1976 Boler with no interior lighting or battery. There are 2 110 volt recepticles. One for the 3-way fridge and one on the cabinet face. I basically have a blank canvas to do what ever I want.
I want a good mix of hydro and battery power. Do they need breakers and fuses?
Do I need a 12 volt deep cycle battery and charger just to run a few lights? Has anyone ever used those stick on AAA battery lights instead of going the 12 volt route?
I'm quite capable of doing the work and I'm not looking for the cheapest solution. I would really just appreciate some opinions on what has worked out well for you and maybe what you wish you would have done. I want to do it right while I have the opportunity before I continue with the reno. Thank-you!!!
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Old 05-11-2009, 10:02 PM   #2
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I had a 13ft Compact J. I used a 12 volt motor cycle battery for my lights. I just used inline fuses. It worked ok for me. Along with that you could use a small Solar panel.
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I want a good mix of [b]hydro and battery power. Do they need breakers and fuses?
Do I need a 12 volt deep cycle battery and charger just to run a few lights? Has anyone ever used those stick on AAA battery lights instead of going the 12 volt route?
What's the American word for "Hydro"?


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I found some florescent / incandescent flashlights in WalMart when I was rebuilding my Compact Jr. (See the yellow fixtures in my photographs.) They each had a battery compartment for a Bazillion "C" cell batteries, or a cord with a 12 volt plug. Since I did not want to have to keep a bazillion "C" cells on hand, I wired up 12 volt outlets in electrical boxes, and connected them through a marine fuse/switch panel (on the closet wall in the 1st picture) to the group 24 Deep Cycle battery on the tongue. I also Jerry-rigged a big honking AC adapter (The largest one available from Radio Shack) to plug the electrical boxes into shore power with the Deep cycle battery disconnected. One florescent light in each corner lit up the trailer pretty well.
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Old 05-12-2009, 08:25 PM   #5
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I had a 13ft Compact J. I used a 12 volt motor cycle battery for my lights. I just used inline fuses. It worked ok for me. Along with that you could use a small Solar panel.

I was thinking of using a 12 volt motor cycle battery because of it's smaller size, but I'm wondering if it would provide enough power. Maybe with a smart charger??? Has anyone went this route? Would it work?
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Old 05-12-2009, 09:31 PM   #6
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AKA shorepower or 110 volt electricity. They generate a lot with hydro power (dams) up there

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Old 05-15-2009, 11:59 AM   #7
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Hi all, I have a just bought a 1976 Boler with no interior lighting or battery. There are 2 110 volt recepticles. One for the 3-way fridge and one on the cabinet face. I basically have a blank canvas to do what ever I want.
I want a good mix of hydro and battery power. Do they need breakers and fuses?
Do I need a 12 volt deep cycle battery and charger just to run a few lights? Has anyone ever used those stick on AAA battery lights instead of going the 12 volt route?
I'm quite capable of doing the work and I'm not looking for the cheapest solution. I would really just appreciate some opinions on what has worked out well for you and maybe what you wish you would have done. I want to do it right while I have the opportunity before I continue with the reno. Thank-you!!!
IF THE CAMPER HAS A 110AC TO 12DC VOLT CONVERTER I WOULD INSTALL ALL THE REQUIRED LIGHTINGAS 12 V. DC. THAT WAY ONLY U DON`T NEED DOUBLE BULBS. wHEN PLUGED IN POWER TO THE LIGHTS IS SUPPLIED OFF THE CONVERTER AND WHEN U DON`T HAVE SHOR^POWER YOU CAN FEED UR LIGHTS OFF A BATTERTY
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What's the American word for "Hydro"?

Well, we're all Americans all the way from the southern tip of south America to the top of North America. For those of us n the USA it just seams easier to call us Americans because we have no other name for us such as Canadians, Mexicans, Bolivians etc. Other than the British and sometimes Canadians that call us Yanks among other things that I shall not put in print here.

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Old 05-15-2009, 04:00 PM   #9
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I was thinking of using a 12 volt motor cycle battery because of it's smaller size, but I'm wondering if it would provide enough power. Maybe with a smart charger??? Has anyone went this route? Would it work?
I use jump start type batteries, this one from Canadian Tire with built in inverter, the internal charger fried so I bought a smart charger so now when I am connected to 110v I can recharge the battery. I also have a little solar panel that charges too, we are not big electric users, so the battery is enough, and the small solar puts back the little bit we did use.

Has been fine for 2 camping seasons now, but your usage may vary.
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Old 05-28-2009, 10:19 AM   #10
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I am currently working on a system very similar to Kevin61(above). 2 deep cycle 6volt 240 amp batteries and a 1750Watt inverter. It really all depends on your energy needs are. I have a 65 watt fridge, a space heater, 12volt lighting and a satellite radio going in my boler.
The lighting and the fridge are my main concern. The heater would only be used in a rare ocassion. But the fridge alone can be ran for 2 days (assuming it is running all of the time) so maybe longer. Go to 12 volt side of life for a good explanation and examples to help you figure out your energy needs.
Dave Mc to answer your question, again it depends on the amp hour rating on your motor cycle battery and the total wattage of your lighting.
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Nuclear?
a la Homer Simpson or 3 Mile Island
(really it's water)
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Hi: All...POWER as in "The Power Co." Edison Power and Light... etc. In Canada we have a Hydro Bill... In the United States it's a Power Bill... I think???
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Hi as well.

Alf is right as in Ontario they all tend to speak about electricity as "Hydro" that is the utility company that the power comes from, it would be like getting an electric bill.

We too are pondering the choices about "power, electric or Hydro"

It is an interesting question for sure, Good Luck with what you decide.

See you in June/July Alf.......

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Old 05-29-2009, 04:46 PM   #14
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Hi Dave, everyone,

I've gone the route of the 'small, basic 12V battery' for my 13' Trillium. I needed a small amount of 12V power to run LED lighting, a vintage car radio, and the odd 12V phone charger; the Trillium only has an icebox, and the furnace has no electric fan.

You'll see my electrical setup in the picture below. From top to bottom: Fuse panel, 110V smart charger (from Canadian Tire), and a 12V battery I 'rescued' from a emergency lighting fixture. When off-the-grid, this will meet my needs; when 110V is available, I need only to reach into the bay and plug the charger into the 110V outlet in the footwell under the table. This setup isn't completely hands-off, but I preferred to have a physical separation between the two electrical systems.

I realize I went overkill on the mounting systems there, but I wanted it to be completely dismantleable, and I needed it all nicely spread out to be able to understand/remember my new wiring! Incidentally, I used 10-gauge marine-grade throughout, with crimped and heat-shrinked connections.

I'll be replacing this system with a twin 12V deep-cycle setup once I get a battery box mounted on the front of the trailer; that'll wait until the rain/snow returns, though.

Hope this helps; email me off-list if I can contribute more.

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