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Old 04-27-2009, 04:38 PM   #15
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Mine didn't come with a gasket that's why I used butyl tape. If you haven't back from Scamp via email about the wood trim, call the factory and speak with Mica the parts person. Mine arrived with days of calling him.
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Old 04-27-2009, 05:22 PM   #16
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Mine didn't come with a gasket that's why I used butyl tape. If you haven't back from Scamp via email about the wood trim, call the factory and speak with Mica the parts person. Mine arrived with days of calling him.

Thanks Joy I am wondering how much better the gasket could be over butyl tape. Butyl tape is usually a pretty good sealer. Hummmmm
I found some L shaped trim at Home Depot today that I think will do the trick. Just need to stain it to match the other trim.

Will get it done yet!

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Old 04-27-2009, 05:26 PM   #17
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I'm not sure which one I'd use (I'd have to see the gasket), but I wouldn't use both. So either the gasket or butyl tape. I suppose it's possible that the butyl tape could react with the plastic of the vent, but I think it's unlikely (and it sounds as though others have used it successfully).

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I'm not sure which one I'd use (I'd have to see the gasket), but I wouldn't use both. So either the gasket or butyl tape. I suppose it's possible that the butyl tape could react with the plastic of the vent, but I think it's unlikely (and it sounds as though others have used it successfully).

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Thanks Raya I agree both would be a bad idea. The gasket is a white soft plastic strafoam thing about 1/8" think. Looks like something like you would get packed around glass when shipping. If I use it I would then have to caulk around it. Hummm
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Given your description of it, and the fact that others have used butyl tape successfully (without degrading the plastic), I think I would choose butyl. The gasket might be high quality closed-cell foam, but we know butyl tape is very effective and lasts a long time. I would also wonder about the gasket's ability to "self seal" around the fasteners (maybe why they want you to caulk them). Again, I'm not looking at the gasket, so I may be speaking out of turn (feel free to ignore me completely )

Also, I think if you do use butyl, you probably wouldn't need to caulk around the outside. Now if only I had a Fantastic Vent in my hands to verify this (AND install in my Boler ) I am getting tempted...

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Anyone considering installing a fantastical fan should order the model that has the trim package intended for thin ceilings (I believe it is called the HiProfile), not the typical thick ceilings found on stick-built RVs -- More of the fan sticks up outside instead of down inside -- The original stuf can be modified during installation, however, so it's not a major mistake.
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Anyone considering installing a fantastical fan should order the model that has the trim package intended for thin ceilings (I believe it is called the HiProfile), not the typical thick ceilings found on stick-built RVs
We bought our Fantastic Vent from Adohen Supply Co and were really impressed with all the choices they offered. Did you know that you can specify the lid type and color, choose a thin ceiling or regular ceiling model, and pick the interior color? Plus they had great prices.

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Old 04-30-2009, 11:37 AM   #22
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We bought our Fantastic Vent from Adohen Supply Co and were really impressed with all the choices they offered. Did you know that you can specify the lid type and color, choose a thin ceiling or regular ceiling model, and pick the interior color? Plus they had great prices.

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I purchased my fan in the Oregon last summer. It was on sale, exchange almost par and no tax. :-) I got the standard one for stick trailers as I did not know they had a thin ceiling one. Have worried about how the heck I was going to get it to fit ever since. Finally got up the nerve to cut the hole this week-end and got it in. Worked out fine. Purchased a 1 1/16" x 1 1/16" L shaped wood trim to use instead of the trim kit that came with it. It does come down that amount from the rat fir but it is over top of the table so head room is not an issue. Used Butyl tape instead of the gaset that came with it. Turned out fine. Will post a photo under modifications section.

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Old 04-30-2009, 12:29 PM   #23
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The original fan factory installed in my Scamp had butyl tape, no gasket. The factory also added caulk to all the rivets and a little around the edge of the fan. So that's exactly what I did when I put the fantastic fan in.

I'm not interested in any leaks in the roof. I find no reason not to use the caulk. It'll be years before I replace the fantastic fan.
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The original fan factory installed in my Scamp had butyl tape, no gasket. The factory also added caulk to all the rivets and a little around the edge of the fan. So that's exactly what I did when I put the fantastic fan in.

I'm not interested in any leaks in the roof. I find no reason not to use the caulk. It'll be years before I replace the fantastic fan.
Thanks Joy I did add caulking under the rivets and caps just haven't done around the outside yet.
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Oops , I said Plumbers putty and should have said Butyl tape. I had used Plumbers putty for something else.

I added the caulk around the outside flange because that's what the factory had done with my original fan and all other outside ports, doors and vents.
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What size rivets did you use (length especially) to go through the vent flange, the butyl tape and the fiberglass roof of the scamp?

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Jumbo here is a finished pictures of how mine turned out. I am pretty sure the rivet grip was 1/2' to 5/8". Keep in mind that as you rivet it down it will sink down into the butyl tape. When I resealed the big escape hatch I reinstalled it the same way.
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