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Old 12-08-2015, 11:14 AM   #57
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Update: December 8, 2015


We had a brief break in the weather and Paul sanded and faired a hole that went through to the outside. First fairing half done; he says it looks "pretty good."


I made him homemade ice cream.


He bought a 10 x 17 foot portable "garage" to set up over the entire trailer once it's back on the frame, so he can work even when it's raining. It'll take up to 20 mph winds, so it's still only a part-time shelter, but it should help a lot. Many days here are warm enough but he hates the rain coming in through the open door when he's working inside the shell.


OK. So hole #20 or 21 is in progress!
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Old 01-06-2016, 04:14 PM   #58
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January 6 2016 -- he finished fairing that hole (it was an exterior hatch) and today (another weather break) sanded it smooth and primed it with marine fiberglass primer.


He also took off another hatch door that turned out to be aluminum, and is working on removing all the silicone. This one is about 8 x 10 or bigger, and is partly why that area of the inside floor rotted. He said he'll cut a piece of that fiberglass one-piece bathroom or use the cut-out from the rock shield (primed and ready for paint, with a piece of generic lexan in front of the hole) to fill it. We have several more clear, warmish days predicted, and he's willing to work on this.
So--more progress made; I count a primed hole as a finished hole. Down to 20.


Hope everyone had a good holiday season, and wishing all a happy new year!
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Old 02-06-2016, 12:53 PM   #59
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February 6, 2016

One month since last update.

He counted the holes he's filled so far: 24.

He went out in the dark last night, put a light under the trailer now that it's back on the frame, and circled all the rest of the little holes.

He announced he still has 30 holes to fill, including that 2 x 3 footer where we're taking out the old 3-way fridge vent.

He's gotten pretty good at using fiberglass "panels" to mostly fill a larger hole and then mat and resin it into place. He's gotten very good at "Bondo-hair." He's faired and sanded, acetoned, washed, re-acetoned, primed...and in the case of the rock shield and the small, "practice" motorcycle trailer, painted with Rustoleum marine enamel (white) and some leftover car enamel paints we mixed into a nice gray-blue for the little trailer's lower half and interior. "Shelly" came out looking pretty sweet, no huge rock chips now, and some proper weep holes so she doesn't gradually fill up with stagnant water while waiting for use. Paul took off the roof rack, used the butyl tape (in white), and put all the trim and rack back on properly. He reports not a smidge of water is getting in right now, so we have big hopes for the work he still has to do on the amerigo!

He's out right now getting ready to primer (marine/fiberglass) the patched hole where the old, leaking roof vent was.

Again, to all, thanks for all the advice and encouragement!

Meets and nogs and wags coming nearby; hoping to catch at least one of them this summer if we can get enough done to be able to sleep in "her."

Still a whole lot to do, though.
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Old 02-06-2016, 03:04 PM   #60
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After this project is over, He will fix Everything with fiberglass and bondo!

Is Shelly the name that may stick? When I google "shelly" I get pictures of Shelly, some good, some, well,.... When I google "carol", or "francesca" I do not get any pictures - why is that?

When I google "Look at me, Shelly, Lots of girls have" I get back here!

And I had some fun with "Semper ubi, sub ubi" - learn something new every day! (My small amount of Latin learning was done in a non-English speaking environment.)
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After this project is over, He will fix Everything with fiberglass and bondo!

Is Shelly the name that may stick? When I google "shelly" I get pictures of Shelly, some good, some, well,.... When I google "carol", or "francesca" I do not get any pictures - why is that?

When I google "Look at me, Shelly, Lots of girls have" I get back here!

And I had some fun with "Semper ubi, sub ubi" - learn something new every day! (My small amount of Latin learning was done in a non-English speaking environment.)
The little "Legacy" or "Cadet" style motorcycle trailer has been dubbed Shelly for good, partly because she opens like a clamshell, and partly for that quote, "Look at me, Shelly, lots of girls have big feet" from Dirty Jobs with Mike Rowe, when he was talking to a little Shetland type pony. Our Shelly is much smaller than our travel trailer, so she's a "Shetland" size to the other's Clydesdale size.

Semper ubi sub ubi -- doesn't need the comma. A Latin pun, from "Frasier," I must confess I didn't think it up myself.

So, where did you pick up your Latin?

,Paul's already fixing other things with epoxy and bondo--he fixed up our old lawnmower one rainy day, there were huge holes rusted through on the deck, and now it's all whole again, painted bright red (leftover enamel paint) and back in the garden shed. I can imagine he's going to find more uses for this new-found skill!

Paul just came in and said he filled 9 more holes today.

It's moving along.
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Fiberglass is amazing. The AC cover on top of my Scamp was cracked by falling branches (I guess) during its previous life. After I found that new ones cost hundreds of dollars, I fiberglassed it and sprayed white. From 20 feet away it looks like new!

It seems that nobody transcribed Mike Rowe's lines for the benefit of Google, so it only found this site, when entered in quotes.

I found the Latin pun predates "Frasier" who popularized it, and I bet it was invented by some (had to be English speaking) adolescent boys who were forced to learn Latin at a boarding school. Exposure to Latin was commonplace in the old country. When I was a kid my father would occasionally recite in Greek or Latin, having received real classical education. I still hear the sound of it, kind of. I don't know it but I am intrigued by it.
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HAD to be English-speaking, agreed! You and your dad sound very interesting!

Fiberglass IS amazing. Had read that once you got into it, you'd be very pleased to use it, and that's true.

Paul has now finished filling the holes beneath where the new ply will sit, and went and bought enough wood for bracing in the front "pontoons," and today scrubbed the area thoroughly, checking to see that his new weep holes (one in each pontoon) actually do drain. Found one area up on the "flat" at the back that held water, so he put another small (1/8") weep hole there, too. Hope we didn't overdo it.

Now we're waiting for it to dry. Then he'll give it a thin primer coat and we're about ready to lay in the floor. He'll use some industrial double-sided tape to set the 2x4s in place before screwing through the ply into them, and soon I'll be able to walk inside and get exact window measurements.

I think your AC fix sounds super...

Only about four holes left, overall, the huge one where the fridge vent was, a coupler smaller ones in the walls above the ply, and then, at last, the double-layered one.
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Old 02-13-2016, 04:04 PM   #64
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HELP, SUGGESTIONS?

Anyone have any suggestions about doing that hole in the side by the door, the old stove vent that runs right through a molded-in swoosh? I'd thought a two-layer fill patch, well-sanded, might work...what do you think?

Unless we have a mishap, it'll be the LAST hole..down to the 2 x 3 foot fridge vent hole, a couple smaller ones in the upper walls, and this one. WOW!
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I have a 10"x10" hole behind my door that I plan on putting a small access/trap door over. Since my gel coat is in good condition I don't want to do any repairs that entailed any paint work.

Since you're doing away with the refrigerator panel I'm guessing you are painting at least parts of it. If that's the case then I'd fiberglass it in using the same donor panels that you are using for the fridge opening.

I'd glass in the first one (lower front piece) and make it larger than the "swoosh" section as you call it. Then trace the body line you need from the street side of the camper. After the first panel is cured and roughed in, cut the body line into the patch panel using the template from the street side. . Now you can bond the second panel behind the first giving you the body line desired. If the thickness of your patch panel isn't the same as the recces in the body line just double it up with a filler piece. A little bondo & primer then you're ready for paint!

Sounds easy anyway doesn't it?
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....you mentioned measuring windows, are you planning on replacing the originals? I'm redoing the window frames on mine now & thought this would be a great time for new windows? If I had to go with a slightly different size then no big deal at this point, I'm already re-framing and replacing the paneling. Then I got quotes of $700.00+ per window PLUS a $45.00 crating fee and another $125.00 shipping per window.

I guess I'm using my original windows!
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Hi, Steve,

If our outside had been better, we might have made the same choice to do access doors, but there were just too many repairs to be done. We had that decision decided before Paul began fiberglassing. AND it was dark brown, and although I'd been getting used to it, in the end it just was too much.

YES, your suggestion about the swoosh hole sounds good! Paul said there are only three holes left now, the fridge vent hole, the swoosh hole, and the hole in the inner ceiling where the bathroom vent was. (We have a Fantastic Fan at the other end over the big bed, so that old, broken up, battered, leaking vent could go.)

We'll paint the bathroom ceiling...don't really want to, but once patched, it'll need it. Had considered just covering the hole with a light fixture like the big star or moon from IKEA, but so far Paul's not on board. Maybe I can talk him into it, though.

The windows--Whoa! That means $870 each!? No, luckily, so far they're all functioning OK. Someone scratched up an area on the back one with what looks like steel wool, but Paul polished it up some with a pastic liquid from Harbor Freight...
that'll do unless and until we replace the plexiglass...

No, I'm measuring for exact sizes for the roll-up fleece panels I'll make as curtains...

Then we're thinking about cleaning the channel outside the windows really well, using aluminum primer in them, and painting them with flat black rather than trying to find that rubber covering. The amount of dirt under the old rubber was awesome, and every bit was soaking wet where the rubber held dirt and water against the screw heads.

Meanwhile, have been sketching out what bed / couch / settee configurations we most want; need these things figured out before we do the wiring, so we know where to run the wires.

Did you still want one of those original square light fixtures? I have a feeling we'll have at least one we won't be using (I need a different kind of fixture to read by at night).




What are you using to replace the paneling? We've been considering this all winter, and have decided to try re-laminating our old stuff, priming it to seal it, and then laying clean white fabric over it (folding it over the edges to the back) and rolling a really good clear sealer over it to glue it to the panels, possibly in a matte finish. It's an Ace hardware brand and is really tough; we used it on our coffee table top and it does great.




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I haven't found the paneling I want to use yet, I may end up with luan & a vinyl wallpaper, just haven't looked that far down the project pipeline yet! I may check with a couple of local cabinet companies to see what kind of wood grain 1/4" sheets they have to do below the seats with. I didn't want to replace or redo all of my cabinet doors so I'll try to get a close match to them if possible.

I had bought some of the exterior vinyl window trim from this place, it's 5/8" width & the same as the old stuff. I plan on putting a little dab of sealer/caulk over each screw head in the channel before the trim goes back on. Black 50' Narrow 6" RV Flexible camper Vinyl Insert Trim Mold Screw Cover 357BK | eBay
I found the trick to putting the trim back in the channel is to lay it out in the hot sun to get it nice & pliable, then it snaps into the groove very easily.

Mr. Claus had kindly sent me some his old lights so hopefully I'm good but thanks for the thought!
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Update: February 17, 2016

Glad you got some lights, kind of Mr.Claus, he's another good guy.

Today we discovered the belly band is leaking. To keep the rubber in the channel, they when ahead a shoved screws through it in all the corners and at the ends, without any sealant at all, plus they painted the aluminum channel to the outer fiberglass and sealed that with silicone. Paul was pretty angry when he saw the water running down the inside wall...luckily, the weep holes he drilled the other day let it all run out...and here this AM we were debating maybe filling them in after all.

Last straw for working without at least a temporary floor. Paul got the subfloor all primed with fiberglass primer (stinky fume-off!) he got some old ply from a neighbor and is making a temporary floor, too much worry about flexing and maybe cracking the subfloor...plus he can use the pieces for good patterns when we do finally cut the marine ply. We were beginning to be hopeful we were making real, reassembly progress, but this is a setback...Drat.

BUT, on the good side, we've found a source of local Douglas fir (said to be a very sappy , rot-resistant wood,) for new belly band wood, and we think unless we can get the brown paint off it really easily, we'll just paint the aluminum channel black, use butyl to seal it, the bees wax on each new screw, and then touch up each screw with black paint if we decide we don't like the "studded dog collar" effect of the silver screws against the black band. We might like it and leave it.

Paul will go ahead and lightly sand and prime and paint around where the belly channel will sit before replacing it--once he gets all the old screws out, of course, which as of this afternoon has turned out to be one slow and trying job.

Necessity is the mother of invention...Hmmm. "Nessy." That might be a good name for her!
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Well it's better that you found the belly band issue now before you started re-assembly. Hopefully your bag full of surprises is empty now!

I did make full size floor patterns on heavy construction paper from my plywood, if you need to use them just let me know.
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