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Old 02-17-2016, 05:38 PM   #71
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Say, thanks!

It IS good to have found those leaks now...

All we haven't undone yet is take down the upper cabinets and take out the ceiling...Oh, and disassemble the door.

I dread doing any of those things. Did you go that far?

If so--how?
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Old 02-17-2016, 06:37 PM   #72
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Mine has the one piece fiberglass ceiling. That part was originally installed before the top & bottom halves were joined together & it's bonded to the upper shell w/styrofoam insulation between the panels. If yours is the same style & in good shape then leave it be....you don't want to stir up that hornets nest!

The wood behind my door frame was completely rotted from years of water leaking around the aluminum frame. It's sealed to the shell the same way the windows are with butyl tape. Since you're this far into the project it'd be a good idea to check that area good on your FG16. The sides of the door framing is 3/4" plwood & we know how that holds up to water leaks. I'll be replacing mine & coating it with either fiberglass resin or oil based paint to try to protect it a little longer.

The upper cabinets on mine had to be dismantled to remove them, they are for the most part stapled and screwed together. Unfortunately to completely remove the window frames ~ wall paneling you will have to remove the upper cabinets first.
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Old 02-18-2016, 09:00 AM   #73
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.......and an easy way to check the door frame is to open the door about 6" then try to push the top of the door forward towards the front of the trailer while watching the hinges. I had about an inch of slop in mine where they attached to the frame. The strange part was the door opened/closed just fine. I first tried reinforcing the hinge area behind the closet wall with steel plates but there was just too much wood rot to help it.
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Old 02-18-2016, 10:09 AM   #74
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OK. Our door "feels" really good, too, but we'll do the slop test. The doorway wood is quite rotted at the bottom. We were thinking some Doug fir dimensional, well-coated.

Today Paul's making whole grain muffins, then he'll go out and finish the pre-floor, then I can get in there and measure for the curtain panels while he works at taking out those old screws outside--he spent all afternoon at it yesterday and managed six or seven. Wow. Slow. Shawshank Redemption kind of thing.
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Old 02-18-2016, 06:03 PM   #75
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Kai, I hate to say it but if you see rot at the floor level it's likely rotted further up too. For a couple of reasons I'd recommend pulling the door frame off. First is just like all of the window frames you'll want to replace the butyl seal around the perimeter. Unless it was recently done it's probably dried up and leaking, something you don't want. Second is the side support boards actually set on the floor and to replace the plywood floor while trying to slide it under those would be difficult and frustrating.

Here's some pics of my frame to give you a little insight to it. It's really not that hard to remove, first take the door off the hinges by lifting it straight up when opened. There are maybe 25 screws under the vinyl trim on the outer edge & another dozen or so in the jamb of the frame itself. The six hinges bolts need to come out also. The top of the aluminum frame straddles the outer shell & the inside headliner so after you get all of the screws out, pull out on the bottom of the frame. Once it's pulled out past the floor let it drop down a few inches then completely remove it.

I had cut some 3/4" plywood for the side boards but I may end use using some 1" x 8" treated wood instead because all of the screws from the outside are going into the edge of the plywood and it tends to split the plys apart instead of gripping into it. I'm redoing my window frames right now & plan on doing the door frame once all of the windows are done.
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Here's the old side boards, all of the rot was behind the aluminum frame. There were also spacer boards or fillers in the channel of the frame to fill the void and everyone of those were so rotted that when I pulled the frame they fell out & disintegrated when they hit the floor!
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Hi, SteveV,

Oh, lord. Nothing like photos to tell the tale.

This trailer is the gift that keeps on taking...you make a great case for pulling it all apart. There was virtually no slop...it moved maybe 1/4 inch, but...

At least at this point we're leaving the ceiling alone. Though we have the vent hole in the loo to fill; I don't really want to paint the ceiling even in there, it's such nice pretty white fiberglass, so for now I found a flat rectangular section of basket that Paul can put up to cover the hole using the old vent screw holes and some washers...for now.

Today it was pouring rain, so he did some other chores, got some new burr things to cut the old screw heads off, took Shelly, the little one, to work and showed off his skill -- they were all suitable admiring, which felt good to hear about. He did do a nice job, and learned a ton. Shelly, however, has NO wood.

Amerigo gave us the best and worst of both worlds there, egg and home. BUT...as I plan layout tweaks, it also gives us some leeway and options we wouldn't have in a completely fiberglass shell with the molded-in furniture.

Thanks--Paul will give your advice a thorough go-over and study!

On the plus side--he got the temporary 1/2" ply floor in and for the first time in five months I was able to go inside...I stood in there so long he got worried. I was just looking at it all and thinking of all the work he's done and plans we've made for fixing things.

(I'm heavier than Paul and have smaller feet--was afraid my PSI load would hurt the subfloor if I were to go in without any ply under me. .)

These are ongoing works of sculpture!

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Old 02-25-2016, 02:41 PM   #78
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2 25 2016 update

Paul is sanding that 2 x 3 foot hole now, where the fridge vent was...he's ready to fair it in a few minutes, let it set, then wash, acetone wipe, and prime it. I pointed out if he were to install the belly band wood inside, and the tape holding the 2 x 3 foot patch closed leaked, his new belly band would get all wet. SO he moved to the patch to get that closed up before proceeding with the band.

He bought the belly band wood, and enough butyl tape to go around the trailer.

The belly band aluminum is completely, shiny black now. He has the screws to re-install it. (We gave up trying to clean it back to aluminum. Just too much work for what it would be worth.)

So progress continues...but Paul told me he's sure if he takes out all four sides of belly band wood and trim, the entire top of the trailer will fall off. Is that even possible?

Not that it really matters, he's going to do it one side at a time, and would have to work somewhat that way anyway.
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Old 03-17-2016, 05:46 PM   #79
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Glad we pulled the doorway apart. Rotted throughout.

Today Paul got the floor ply in and bolted down. At last!

Tomorrow he'll fiberglass it to the walls--any suggestions?
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Kai,
I figured your door frame would be about like mine was. I think plywood wasn't the best material to use there, when you run screws into the edge of plywood it's almost a guarantee it'll split.

The good thing is there isn't much wood left to replace!
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Old 03-18-2016, 02:39 PM   #81
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Hi, Steve,

Yeah, plywood edges don't take screws very solidly...and, no, there wasn't much to remove. Paul was a little unnerved how the upper part of the door frame just sort of plopped down on him! Just rotted to pulp.

That "eyebrow" thing--rain guard--was flat when we got it; someone had it off and riveted it on again flat. Nuts. We'll have to make a new one out of fiberglass.

Paul got that "swoosh" area where the stove vent was all glassed in; I had wanted a rounder shape to the swoosh but his has a straight center--he says it matches the other side but I was too miffed to even go look. I had to admit it looks fine, though; I just wanted it to be a little more curvaceous! He's really gotten into using the fiberglass.

He said thanks for the tips on the floor to wall work! He has about 1/2 done already, and actually said he was sorry it was going so slow! It's only been the morning (while I made chicken-based dog food)! Nice day again today, good weather for fiberglassing!

Well, will let you go, know you're busy, great to hear how you're doing!

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Weep holes?

I read through your hole thread in one go yesterday. It is really entertaining. I think I saw a reference to weep holes at one point but cannot find it today. (Or maybe it was a different thread) .
Anyway, my question is whether most fg trailers have little holes in the floor to allow for drainage? I conscientiously filled all the holes in the base of my Ventura before replacing the wood floor and am now thinking that I maybe should have left a few at the lowest points to allow for water to escape.
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I read through your hole thread in one go yesterday. It is really entertaining. I think I saw a reference to weep holes at one point but cannot find it today. (Or maybe it was a different thread) .
Anyway, my question is whether most fg trailers have little holes in the floor to allow for drainage?
Escape trailers do have drain holes at several places on the perimeter of the trailer, but the bottom side edges are rounded and below the floor level to act like a French drain. The holes are a tad over 1/4 inch in diameter, so not so tiny.
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Thanks,
In all the corners of Ventura trailers there are "troughs" that slant toward the center sides of the trailer and end in a low area. The three widest are about 9" by 2 feet and the one by the door is about a foot long by 3" sloping toward the base of the door. In the long ones I have put 1" holes at the lowest part with plugs that I can remove to drain any water but there is no hole by the door so I think I will make a small one there.
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