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Old 09-29-2013, 04:13 PM   #1
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Fiberglass roof repair. Help!

I did find a thread on FiberglassRV.com about basic fiberglass repair. I worked with fiberglass briefly in college, but that was 20 years ago so thought I would post a few pictures of my issues here and see what ideas you folks have to keep my roof from leaking.

Picture #1 is the outside roof area. This looks like it could be a significant amount of work.

Picture #2 is what the area from picture #1 looks like from the inside. The wall/ceiling area was covered with carpet (I think) it's full of what I think is carpet glue. Some of it is kinda sticky, some of it is pretty hard.

From Picture #1 and #2 Does anyone have some ideas as to how they would go about repairing this area? Getting the glue off the inside? Repair from the outside or inside, or both???? I need some advice. The area does leak.

Picture #3 I have water that is leaking down the seam right through to the inside. There are 3 areas total that are leaking.

Picture #4 Is the inside below the seam. The area circled looks to be an area someone tried to repair and also added some kind of white rubber type substance. Needless to say the repair didn't work.

If anyone has first hand experience repairing issues similar to my pictures I would love to hear your thoughts. If there are other treads that address the repairs I would like to make I would also be interested in links to those threads. I'm new here and haven't spent much time on forums in the past, so this is all kinda new to me. does this place have a "keyword search area"???

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Old 09-29-2013, 04:45 PM   #2
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It appears to me to be a very poor glas job,,,,
If it were me I would remove all the paint from the affected areas,
Decide weather the glas is structually solid,,does it move with say about 20 lbs of pressure? If so probbaly needs a layer of glas. If it is firm you could "wash" the surface with a coat of resin followed by a coat of body filler to smooth it out and paint. Make sure surface is rough sanded when applying the resin and or filler. Look for some totorials on Utube.
And practice on something other than your trailer first. Like a piece of plywood.
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Old 09-29-2013, 05:28 PM   #3
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I wonder if fixing the seam on top would be as easy as using an epoxy putty and then putting trim lock over the top of it. I used to do taxidermy and used a 2 part epoxy putty called Magic Sculp. I once used the stuff to plug a hole in a cooler and 15 years later it hasn't changed a bit and the cooler still keeps my ice cold. I wonder if that might fix it. I know magic sculp can be painted also. I've painted it for my taxidermy projects, but not sure how it would work for an exterior application. I'm just thinking out loud.
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I assume this is made similar to our Uhaul. I used two methods to seal leaks in the roof. One area that had a flaw in the seam I sealed with fiberglass resin and cloth. On the seam forward of the roof vent I used Proflex RV sealant along the entire seam, then reinstalled the trim lok. I had also removed the solar panel and a antenna, used resin & cloth to cover those holes. On the inside before we installed new carpet on the ceiling I scraped off any loose glue from the previous carpet with a paint scraper and wire brush. There was also some glue smeared around where it didn't belong and I used brake clean and goof off to remove it from the fiberglass.
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Jason, are you planning to paint the trailer? Jen ground and filled the entire seam before paint. No more leaks, probably ever....
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Old 09-29-2013, 06:13 PM   #6
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It appears to me to be a very poor glas job,,,,
If it were me I would remove all the paint from the affected areas,
Decide weather the glas is structually solid,,does it move with say about 20 lbs of pressure? If so probbaly needs a layer of glas. If it is firm you could "wash" the surface with a coat of resin followed by a coat of body filler to smooth it out and paint. Make sure surface is rough sanded when applying the resin and or filler. Look for some totorials on Utube.
And practice on something other than your trailer first. Like a piece of plywood.
Be sure to keep us updated!
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Fred great info, thank you so much
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Jason, are you planning to paint the trailer? Jen ground and filled the entire seam before paint. No more leaks, probably ever....
I trailer had been freshly painted. Probably just to hide imperfections. I however would like to do a more permanent repair. My plan is to have this trailer for many years. From the looks of my roof in picture #1 I'm pretty sure there is going to be some painting done when I'm finished. However, I don't plan to instantly go out and have it professionally painted. I want to make sure it's water tight before paint.
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I assume this is made similar to our Uhaul. I used two methods to seal leaks in the roof. One area that had a flaw in the seam I sealed with fiberglass resin and cloth. On the seam forward of the roof vent I used Proflex RV sealant along the entire seam, then reinstalled the trim lok. I had also removed the solar panel and a antenna, used resin & cloth to cover those holes. On the inside before we installed new carpet on the ceiling I scraped off any loose glue from the previous carpet with a paint scraper and wire brush. There was also some glue smeared around where it didn't belong and I used brake clean and goof off to remove it from the fiberglass.
Mary and Bob, thanks for the great info. I will look into brake cleaner and goof off. I wasn't sure what would be safe to use on fiberglass and these two products will give me a good start in getting that nasty glue off! thanks so much!
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Mary and Bob, thanks for the great info. I will look into brake cleaner and goof off. I wasn't sure what would be safe to use on fiberglass and these two products will give me a good start in getting that nasty glue off! thanks so much!

Fglas is pretty tuff stuff after it's set.
About the only thing that can affect it is a grinder!!
One of the reasons our trailers are still around.
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does this place have a "keyword search area"???

I find the best search approach is as follows:

Click the SEARCH area of the top blue bar

Ignore the top box - use the one marked "SITE SEARCH/GOOGLE"

Returns lots of well targeted info...
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If it were mine I would do your repair from the inside since you have it stripped already. I would sand the inside with 36 grit paper on a hand grinder just to clean up the area. Mix up your resin of choice and brush it on the whole area you sanded. Brush in all one direction. When this is mostly curred brush on another coat in the other direction. This should seal the area. When this is mostly cured now mix up some resin again and apply it to some 6- 9 oz glass and stick it on the ceiling. let this mostly cure and do another layer. This should stick it up tightly and seal the area without making a big obtrusive heavy lump that wants to fall down. On the outside I would seal the outside openings with 3M 5200 adheasive sealant. this will be minimal intrusion so you dont have to fill and sand and have to repaint which is a great expense. If you use poluester resin on the final layer put a piece of heavy black plastic garden trash bag and stick it on the surface while the resin is wet. After the resin is cured peel off the plastic. Sealing this plastic in the wet resin gets air off the surface of the resin and allows the area to fully cure avoiding a sticky surface after the resin cures.
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Steve,

I wish I had heard from you last night! I decided to see what was going on up top, so I took my dremel out and started working around a couple of the voids. The glass is really thin up there, and I have several pretty significant holes along with tons of pits and smaller voids.

I spent 2-3 hours this afternoon cleaning the carpet glue from the inside. It's such a mess and honestly I'm not sure it's even clean enough yet to put glass over.

I will post some pictures in a couple hours and let you folks toss some repair ideas at me.

As always I really appreciate everyones ideas! Thank you so much!
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If it were mine I would do your repair from the inside since you have it stripped already. .
We had a fellow who does Fiberglass repairs attend one of our trailer meets in BC a couple of years ago and give a demo on a minor repair. What Steve described is pretty well what how we were shown.
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It appears to me to be a very poor glas job,,,,
If it were me I would remove all the paint from the affected areas,
Decide weather the glas is structually solid,,does it move with say about 20 lbs of pressure? If so probbaly needs a layer of glas. If it is firm you could "wash" the surface with a coat of resin followed by a coat of body filler to smooth it out and paint. Make sure surface is rough sanded when applying the resin and or filler. Look for some totorials on Utube.
And practice on something other than your trailer first. Like a piece of plywood.
Be sure to keep us updated!
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Here are a couple more pictures for you guys. I like Fred's idea because I had no idea what the fiberglass actually looked like. The trailer had been freshly painted before I got it, but the roof leaks like crazy. Paint to me is just a cosmetic and eventually after I get this thing watertight I will consider a paint job.

As you guys can see from the outside we have several holes and tons of pits and voids, I think the only thing keeping the rain out was the insanely heavy paint job and the carpet glue on the inside which is also insanely thick. I'm having a heck of a time getting the stuff off!

As of right now, this is my plan for tomorrow. I'm going to use some wax paper to cover the holes on the outside. I'm going to glass from the inside. When I'm done I plan to add a coat of resin to the outside also. There are so many pits and voids on the outside I think those need to be addressed also.

I look forward to hearing everyone's ideas!
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