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01-01-2014, 05:17 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Jon
Trailer: Burro
Oregon
Posts: 127
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Froli system or foam top?
We are planning on dropping the table and using the rear area as a full time bed with both 90lb dogs and am considering a more comfortable solution to the thin pads. We also purchased the Burro for a spring road trip to Disneyland and a coastal Hwy return only to sell it when we return, keep it and rent it out to others or add it to our growing vintage collection. Keeping it as a rental makes the Froli system a good choice as the table module could easily be used for those wanting both. Having a fluffy comfy large memory foam topper sounds nice but a pia to remove to ever use the table. How often do you all use the table when camping? We usually eat outside, sit outside, walk and relax outside only using the other trailers to sleep in. If we decide to use the Burro as a rental, what we do camping may not be what others might?
For those who use the area as a full time bed, what's did you do? Any Froli users out there?
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01-01-2014, 05:59 PM
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Senior Member
Name: bob
Trailer: 1996 Casita 17 Spirit Deluxe; 1946 Modernistic teardrop
New York
Posts: 5,413
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Our Uhaul is similar to the Burro, and had a fiberglass rear pedestal table. We replaced the table with a piece of 5/8" plywood, cut a piece of 5" foam for a mattress. Just recently added a 3" memory foam topper on to the 5" foam. Former front bunk is a short couch with a Casita captains chair in the right front corner. Bed stays made up all the time.
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01-01-2014, 06:06 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Class A Motorhome
Posts: 7,912
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What's a Froli System. It sounds like something out of Bilbo Baggins FGRV.
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01-01-2014, 06:27 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Jon
Trailer: Burro
Oregon
Posts: 127
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Miller
What's a Froli System. It sounds like something out of Bilbo Baggins FGRV.
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Check out the video
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01-01-2014, 06:42 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Class A Motorhome
Posts: 7,912
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I have used two different IKEA mattresses in FGRV's, one, a 2" memory foam over foam rubber, easy to cut to size with a bread knife and super comfortable.
The other is a folding IKEA mattress, with metal innersprings and a memory foam top originally intended for full time use on their futons. Even more comfortable and I can fold it back in half on top of itself and I have a dinette for two. BUT, shortening the spring steel edge frame and removing 3 rows of pocket springs was a real PITA.
If the Froli system is designed for boats I'll bet it's three time as as expensive as it should be....
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01-01-2014, 06:57 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Jon
Trailer: Burro
Oregon
Posts: 127
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Ya, its $300. That's my wrench in the problem. If comparable to an Ikea foam I would try the Froli especially knowing I'll be renting it out or selling it. Not wanting to invest a ton but don't want to waste money on a matress either.
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01-01-2014, 10:31 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Mike
Trailer: 2012 Escape 19
Oklahoma
Posts: 6,018
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Didn't Thom and Cari (accrete) post quite a bit about their Froli? I seem to recall that they still put foam overtop the Froli. Whereas you are talking about one or the other, right?
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01-01-2014, 10:38 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Jon
Trailer: Burro
Oregon
Posts: 127
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I would be using the dinette cushions over the Froli or a foam mattress over the dinette cushions. I searched here for Froli and did not come up with a thread. I will look for thiers, thank you.
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01-01-2014, 11:21 PM
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Senior Member
Name: David
Trailer: Former 13’Scamp, now Snoozy
Arizona
Posts: 2,316
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Jon, we use small self inflating air mattresses under the cushions while sleeping, and under the seating cushions when set up as a table. This offers just enough extra padding to make sleeping & sitting comfortable.
Dave & Paula
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01-02-2014, 12:33 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Jon
Trailer: Burro
Oregon
Posts: 127
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Thanks Dave and Paula, I hadn't thought of that. I have 2 inflaters andwill try it out!
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01-02-2014, 12:57 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Escape 17 ft
Posts: 8,317
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I tried inflatable mattresses in the tent trailer. My theory on why it didn't work is that your body heat needs to warm the entire volume of air contained in the mattress. If you are sleeping on foam, there are small pockets of air under your body that are warmed by your body.
So, air mattresses may work just fine in a temperate climate, in the home, maybe in a heated trailer. Sure didn't work in the tent trailer. Like sleeping on a slab of ice.
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01-02-2014, 10:26 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Paul
Trailer: '07 Scamp 16' SD
Wisconsin
Posts: 110
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Our eggs' PO had a custom mattress made to the size of the scamps bed. It works quite well, but isn't really removable.
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01-03-2014, 12:17 AM
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Senior Member
Name: David
Trailer: Former 13’Scamp, now Snoozy
Arizona
Posts: 2,316
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Glenn Baglo
I tried inflatable mattresses in the tent trailer. My theory on why it didn't work is that your body heat needs to warm the entire volume of air contained in the mattress. If you are sleeping on foam, there are small pockets of air under your body that are warmed by your body.
So, air mattresses may work just fine in a temperate climate, in the home, maybe in a heated trailer. Sure didn't work in the tent trailer. Like sleeping on a slab of ice.
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I hear ya Glenn, but these self inflating back packer mattresses are actually foam filled or something similar, and only 1.5" thick, and 54" long. They are designed to be used on the ground and keep one warm. We use them under the Scamp's foam padding for sleeping, and turn them the other direction to be placed under the seating area when using the dinette. They work very well, and we typically never use a heater while sleeping, as our "Big Agnes" double mummy sleeping keeps us toasty warm (this style bag does not have fill on the under side, but has a large pocket to be able to slip this style of padding into it).
Sleeping in comfort
Dave & Paula
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01-03-2014, 07:48 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Brian
Trailer: 2013 ParkLiner
Upstate New York
Posts: 370
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We discovered a minor problem with condensation under our cushions when camping in cooler weather. We purchased a product called hypervent marine HyperVent Marine - Putting An End To Condensation which we use under the stock cushions on our ParkLiner when leaving the bed set up. When we want to set things up as a seating area, the hypervent rolls up in two pieces with one roll going in the closet and the other in one of the overhead cabinets. This doesn't provide any additional cushioning, but like the Froli system, provides air circulation under the cushions which solves the condensation problem and should extend the life of the cushions. I would think this would be useful with any type of mattress. Cost us a little over $100 for enough material for our 60 x 80 queen size bed.
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01-03-2014, 08:51 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Jon
Trailer: Burro
Oregon
Posts: 127
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Thanks for the tips! With the 2 of us and 2 95lb dogs, I'm sure we will be. Generating some moisture just breathing inside the Burro.
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04-29-2014, 10:13 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Jon
Trailer: Burro
Oregon
Posts: 127
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Had the Burro out for the first time and have been trying Dave and Paula's recommendation of self inflating camp pads under the seat cushions on lunch hour naps at work and it has been suuuuuuper comfy! Slept like a baby at the Spring NOG and look forward to a wonderfull nights sleep again this weekend. The camp pads store under the dinette bed and will also roll up tight and store small in the storage areas. Thaks Dave and Paula!
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