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Old 04-23-2015, 07:29 AM   #15
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I love my Garmin 760 LTM made specifically for RVs. (LTM means lifetime traffic and maps.) It has a 7 inch touchscreen and you can buy it with a bundled wireless rearview camera. I have the camera but haven't set it up yet. It also has voice navigation which I occasionally use.

I cannot compare with the Rand McNally GPS because I haven't used it. I

Several people have told me, "You can't find my house with a GPS," but my Garman took me right there.

Google maps once took me two hours out of my way. And Google maps only works when you have a good data connection. I travel with my iPhone, Garman 760LTM, and hardcopy maps from AAA.

The 760 lets me plan multiple trips in advance and save them. When it's time to go, I can call up the one I want.

Most GPS's let you can choose shortest distance, fastest, etc. I often want the most scenic, which is not an option. So I sit down with my 760 and my extra large Rand McNally Atlas and set up the exact route I want. The atlas has dots next to the scenic roads so I can find them at a glance. I put in waypoints to force the GPS to the route I want. This is all done in advance when I have plenty of time.

I can do the whole trip in one plan or create a different plan for each day.

If the Rand McNally GPS has scenic routing options and I were buying now, that would be a major selling point!

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Old 04-24-2015, 03:42 PM   #16
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Hi, Myron.
We have two Garmins and one of them is useless much if the time because of the connection on the back of the screen. We have bought a new connection again and again and they go bad as they soon do not fit right and will not work. That is a tiny connection piece. The other one has a big clip-on piece and that still works a few years later. It is the newer one that does not work and I am afraid that is how they do them all now. Don't know.
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Old 04-24-2015, 04:36 PM   #17
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I've never used the Rand McNally GPS, but have used Magellian, TomTom, own a Garmin, Sync in a Ford Edge, and now the Nissan in dash Nav system. They all seem to be flawed in one way or another, which leads me to believe that the technology is not ready for autonomous car control. The Magellian unit that I used (with most current updated map data) insisted that I drive the wrong way on a one way street. That is the most egregious error that I have witnessed.

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Old 04-24-2015, 06:33 PM   #18
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Interesting comments about these devices. Have never owned one myself and probably never will given that my iPhone 6 has worked virtually flawlessly for all of these needs. Great maps, great directions and it does so much more. My neighbor once loaned me a Garmin for a long road trip. We weren't gone 3 or 4 days before we shipped it back to him it had so many faults. We never run into these issues with our iPhones. We just returned from a one month long road trip after picking up our Oliver on Mar 3rd and used them exclusively with nary a hitch.

Some of the camping apps are fabulous too, as well as other helpful traveling apps that you will not get with a GPS device. Like someone else mentioned Allstays and the Ultimate Public Campground are great apps. I also like iExit if you are traveling the interstates. It doesn't do so well on secondary back roads though. At this point I wouldn't own a stand alone GPS for travel and road, though I do have one for backcountry hiking. Maybe if one were factory installed on my truck might be nice though.

I find it odd with the extreme advancement and capable technologies that exist in mobile devices not to mention user friendliness that GPS devices by comparison seem stuck in another century with outdated non functional applications.

Not sure this help, but it is my suggestion.

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Old 04-24-2015, 09:15 PM   #19
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Hi Rob,

I love my iPhone 6 plus. It's the best computer I ever owned and it even makes phone calls!

I agree that the apps you mention are fabulous and I would never leave home without my iPhone even if it did not make phone calls b

Unfortunately, it was my iPhone 6 with Google maps that took me two hours out of my way on a five hour drive. I corrected it once, only to have it screw up later. If I hadn't been so tired I might have noticed. But I trusted it and it let me down. Apple maps might have done me right.

One other thing to consider... If you boondock, you'll go place without data services. Google maps and Apple maps both require a data connection. I have a Tom Tom app in my iPhone that works offline, but my Garmin work better than it does.

I agree that dedicated GPS units have more faults than they should. You'd expect the GPS "experts" to know how to make good devices.

All I can say is that so far, my 760 has done a decent good job.

Hi Cathi,

My Garmin 760 has a big clip on the back. The ball for the mount goes into the clip, the clip goes onto the GPS. The power cord with traffic antenna plugs into a mini USB on the clip. You can charge the GPS with a micro USB on the main body, but without traffic. And if you want to mount it, you have to use the clip. Hello Garmin! Why would anyone ever use a GPS in a car without mounting it? Also, it makes no sense to have a clunky external traffic antenna except that it forces you customers to use your cord.

I have a love hate relationship with my Garmin. It does some things really well, more things OK, and it sucks at a few things. Even so, I would not voluntarily leave my 760 at home. It sits next to my iPhone on the dash and is my main navigated. My iPhone usually has Gas Buddy up.

And then there's the atlas in the seat next to me. I don't use it while on the road, but it's well worth the $20 it cost for advance planning.

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Old 04-24-2015, 10:37 PM   #20
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Rich, sounds as if it has been very good so far. Those micro USBs are the problem to me. I know the ones for RVs get excellent reviews but I wonder how long that micro will plug in right. After a while, we cannot charge, no connection as the micro no longer works. How long have you had it?
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I have a 760 and Rich, I don't understand your description. Do you have an external antenna? How would you power the Garmin if you don't plug it in? It's not an RV model, though.

Main thing I don't like is that it ignores "Avoid tolls" and is always trying to send me across the ferry to go north on 5 (Burlington or points north). Plus I would really like a "learning" GPS that could figure out if I always ignore its instruction to do something that my way is better and change the directions. Oh, and traffic 280 miles ahead of me is NOT useful. No point mentioning a traffic jam of 30 minutes if I won't be there for 5 hours.
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Old 04-25-2015, 06:09 AM   #22
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Hi Cathi,

I've only had it a few months. The only time I use the micro USB charge port is to connect to the computer to update maps or to charge it inside the house. I have not had problems with micro USB on other devices, but with this one who knows?


Hi Bobbie,

Yes you must plug it in to keep the battery up while on the road. If you look at the car cable Garmin provided, it has the cigarette plug adapter at one end and the mini USB that goes into the clip on the mount. But in between is a long skinny plastic thing about 1/2" by maybe 3-4" long. That is the antenna that picks up the traffic reports. The satellite antenna that picks up the GPS signal is inside the main body and will alway work if it can "see" the sky. But without that Garmin supplied car charger, you can't get traffic alerts. If it breaks, you must pay Garmin prices for a replacement. You cannot use a generic USB cable.

I haven't used the avoid tolls feature.

A learning feature would be great.

So far much of my driving has been outside of towns so I haven't seen the problems you report with the traffic alerts. It's sound aggravating.

This thing is definitely not perfect, but the advance planning capability is really nice. If I could only choose scenic routing I would be a happy camper! I image the Rand McNally has that too. It wouldn't nearly as useful if it doesn't have that.

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Old 04-25-2015, 09:52 AM   #23
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What happens with the traffic is that, for example, I'll have a route set to my home in Washington, and am in Portland so traffic comes on. Great, Portland has terrible traffic so it's good to see. BUT... it shows a long delay in Seattle 3-4 hours away. Traffic isn't specific to the area you are actually in; it will show traffic anywhere on your route (and change your arrival time even though when you get there the traffic problem has long since cleared- you hope.)

Hmm, will have to look at my charger cord, never noticed that. I do like the traffic feature as once or twice it has helped me avoid a long delay (when I had a choice of freeways) but unless the delay is right in front of me and long I ignore it- it usually clears before I get there.

I don't know if the Garmin will avoid non-ferry tolls as haven't really tried that.

Map updates is kind of a sore spot. When my street pilot broke I thought, okay, I've been needing new maps, anyway. There are a few sections of 99 in California that have been straightened out or made into freeways and the Garmin always started redirecting me when I hit them. Got the new 760 four years ago and it made absolutely no difference. The part of the maps that needed updating on my routes hadn't changed.

I do observe that the 760 is not as accurate as the Street Pilot I5 was. Not map-wise, but in the exact location. It will be off by a few hundred feet quite frequently.

However, all in all, I love my Garmin, and would like one that could choose scenic routes and avoid roads not recommended for trailers.
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Old 04-25-2015, 10:48 AM   #24
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Bobbie,

I can see how it dilutes the value of the traffic alerts. I have not noticed that, but I've only been using it a few months.

Is your 760 the same as mine? Mine is the 760 LTM with a 7" screen intended for RVs? Four years is four or more generations in GPS technology!

I Googled Garmin 760 and found a Garmin Nuvi 760 with a 4.3" screen. Maybe that's what you have.

Have you updated the software recently? When you update maps, they may download software updates too. Even if you don't have free map updates, software updates are always free. I mention this because a software update might solve your traffic issue.

Worth a try if you haven't updated in a while.

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No, mine is the Nuvi, and I don't have updates because there was (at least when I got it) no way to do it on a Mac. And I'm not going to try even if there is now as I had to activate the Audible feature on a PC and don't want to have to do that again (and just confirmed that's still the case). In fact, when I first had it both Audible and Garmin said it wouldn't work with a Mac (it does, but as I said, had to activate on a PC).

When it dies I'll look at the RV models. (Or if maps get too out of date). But I really like the Audible feature so don't want to give that up at this point. They now claim to have Mac software, so then updates would be possible.
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Hi Rob,

Unfortunately, it was my iPhone 6 with Google maps that took me two hours out of my way on a five hour drive. ....Apple maps might have done me right.

One other thing to consider... If you boondock, you'll go place without data services. Google maps and Apple maps both require a data connection. I have a Tom Tom app in my iPhone that works offline, but my Garmin work better than it does.

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We haven't used google maps in a long time as its nowhere near the quality, efficiency and most importantly accuracy of the built in Apple Map app. Initially there was a lot of bad press on this app when it was introduced with the iPhone 5, but contrary to the reports it has served us very well with only small mistakes. We also find it far more robust in what it can accomplish with the help of Siri.

Agreed you have to have cellular service for them to work, but its rare we are completely out of range of service. Low weak signals yes, but completely out is rare and usually only for a very short period if traveling. And if we are already boondocked in a remote location, well we don't really need it then anyway given we are already at our destination.

One of the best features I like while traveling is to ask Siri what the distance is to the next location, town, city or what have you and it can do this on the fly calculating while you're driving and hands free through the truck sound system.

In summary with few exceptions given the robust capabilities of modern cell phones I just don't see much of a need for a traditional GPS anymore for road trips, unless you are up on Cedar Mesa, UT trying to find some remote ruin. Even my next door neighbor who is on the local search and rescue team seems to have his doubts too.
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As I mentioned in an earlier part of this thread, I have a Garmin Nuvi 3580, and update both the software & maps using a MacBookPro laptop using the Garmin Express software. As to their Mac based mapping software (Garmin BaseCamp) I feel it is just about the most infuriating & annoying software ever written.

As to using the "Avoid Tolls" feature, I wish it was a bit more adjustable. I used it to go from my home in Oswego, NY to the Ontario side of Niagara Falls (about 150 miles via NY 104) to avoid the NY Thruway, and because there is a toll on the bridge to Canada, it insisted on routing me over 500 miles to cross the border toll free. Why couldn't they do an "Avoid Toll Roads", but let you cross bridges?

Another pet peeve is there is no way to tell the Nuvi that you want to stay on a particular road. For example, if you start on a US route, for example US 11, if you pick "fastest & also avoid highways" to stay off the parallel interstate, it will route you on county, even town roads to "save time", however while those roads may have a 55 MPH speed limit, they often twist & turn enough that you can never do the limit. Why can't they add a feature that lets you stay on the road you choose?

I still use the Garmin but I do miss the Mac version of Street Atlas, my favorite mapping & driving map software. Delorme won't support the Mac any more so that possibility is long gone.

As to cell phone based map software, while Google maps & the Apple map apps require a cell connection to view the maps, there is software that downloads all the maps at installation. I've used CoPilot & once installed, you do not need a cell connection, although I prefer the Garmin software for driving.

As to hiking, I rarely use my cell phone with the exception of some Topo apps that I download the maps prior to hiking, but I do carry an old Garmin 60CSX. (Which, by the way did help finding my way back from the Fallen Roof Ruin at Cedar Mesa!)
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I have a Garmin and use the CoPilot app, as well as, Allstays truck and travel app. It is wise to use several sources, since no source is all inclusive. also, beware that sometimes road resurfacing renders the posted height of some low bridges inaccurate, so I try to avoid anything even close to the height of the RV.


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