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05-19-2014, 01:49 PM
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Junior Member
Name: Al
Trailer: 84 Scamp 13'
Virginia
Posts: 18
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Has Anyone Replaced Sliders with Radius Jalousie Windows?
I just got off of the phone with Scamp and they mentioned that swapping radius sliders with modern radius jalousie windows would require some fiberglass work and could leave gaps in the ensolite.
Has anyone replaced sliders from an 80s Scamp with modern jalousies? If so, is it a direct fit?
Also, has anyone replaced the door slider with the fixed window?
Thanks,
Al
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05-19-2014, 04:13 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1988 16 ft Scamp Deluxe
Posts: 25,710
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No I haven't made the change and no they are not a direct refit. Scamp gave you the correct advice. You obviously can't go from square corners to radius corners without something to fill in the gap, both fiberglass and interior.
For twelve years I've owned a Scamp with radius corner windows and for twelve years I've wished my trailer had the old style jalousies. Obviously, YMMV
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Donna D.
Ten Forward - 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Double Yolk - 1988 16' Scamp Deluxe
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05-19-2014, 04:34 PM
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Junior Member
Name: Al
Trailer: 84 Scamp 13'
Virginia
Posts: 18
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Thanks Donna for your reply. My current windows are rounded sliders which I'm looking to replace with rounded jalousies; the ones currently being sold by Scamp.
They both appear to be 18x24 so the only thing I can think of is that there might be a difference in the radius of the corners (the Scamp rep cautioned me but was not certain). Was hoping to find out for certain.
Thanks,
Al
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05-19-2014, 04:43 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1988 16 ft Scamp Deluxe
Posts: 25,710
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OH! I thought you were talking square corners to radius. D'oh. Sorry for the confusion.
But, I still wish I had the old fashioned jalousies
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Donna D.
Ten Forward - 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Double Yolk - 1988 16' Scamp Deluxe
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05-19-2014, 04:46 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Tom
Trailer: none
Minnesota
Posts: 250
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I dont know why if your original windows are 18x24 radius corner sliders why a 18x24 new style radius corner crank out wouldn't fit ( are your old windows a clamp ring style?). I also would think if the same size your could replace sliding window in door with stationary glass, if it the same size or bigger...
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05-19-2014, 04:49 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Tom
Trailer: none
Minnesota
Posts: 250
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I would tell the scamp rep to get up and take a little walk to warehouse or the production floor since Im sure you can still get scamps with sliders....
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05-19-2014, 05:23 PM
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Junior Member
Name: Al
Trailer: 84 Scamp 13'
Virginia
Posts: 18
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Donna: in terms of square jalousies, I've been a long time visitor to this site and I know how much you love them. If I had 2 sets one would be on its way to my trailer and the other would be on its way to you. Thanks for all of your contributions to this community.
Hambone: I agree with you which is why I was ready to place the order but I'm going to confirm the corner radius on my scamp windows before I pull the trigger. It's stored offsite right now. What's interesting is that their website lists the fixed door window as 15x15 but they responded by email and stated it's really 15.25x15.75. My current opening is 15 x 15.5 so I may have to enlarge it slightly.
Seems like not many people have replaced their windows. Many have resealed the glass or cleared drain holes with trimmer line. My only reason for swapping is that I want some ventilation in the rain and a fixed door window which I hope with regular maintenance will keep the door from taking on water and sagging in the future.
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05-19-2014, 05:44 PM
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Senior Member
Name: bob
Trailer: 1996 Casita 17 Spirit Deluxe; 1946 Modernistic teardrop
New York
Posts: 5,416
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I installed a Scamp ( Hehr ) jalousie window in our Uhaul. Nice window, but I had to modify the opening for it to fit, which of course has nothing to do with your situation. Best I could do is give you the outside measurements and corner radius of the exterior frame. Scamp price is reasonable and they actually built a wood box to ship it in along with the rear window I bought.
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05-19-2014, 06:37 PM
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Senior Member
Name: kootenai girl
Trailer: 1976 Trillium 1300
British Columbia
Posts: 1,411
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Yes Donna, we just picked up a 1976 Trillium which was the first brand we started with several years ago. At the time we didn't realize the gem we had.
I have fallen in love all over again with the jalousie windows!
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05-19-2014, 06:42 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1988 16 ft Scamp Deluxe
Posts: 25,710
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I think Al is smart to consider the change. If you must have single pane windows, jalousies rule! Even the modified versions. IMHO.
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Donna D.
Ten Forward - 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Double Yolk - 1988 16' Scamp Deluxe
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05-19-2014, 06:42 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Tom
Trailer: none
Minnesota
Posts: 250
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Al, In terms of water getting into your door from window, i had that problem with soaked door core, what I found out it wasnt the window, but actually the door handle. Below my window was dry but below door handle door was soaked. I made a gasket for the door handle ( dont know if there ever was one). For ventilation on my sliders I installed those maxi-window vents. Just have one installed on one of the rear sliders, is opened when not moving all the time, was a relative easy install (measure twice, cut once!!)
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05-19-2014, 07:26 PM
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Junior Member
Name: Al
Trailer: 84 Scamp 13'
Virginia
Posts: 18
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That's great information regarding the door handle causing the damp core. Seems like a great idea to seal that as well (maybe a butyl gasket).
I just got back from assessing my trailer's windows. I currently have my door window removed and the door has a 3" radius so a direct swap should be possible.
The rear dinette windows seem like they have a smaller radius which could be a problem. I have not removed the dinette window so I haven't gotten an exact read but the corner seems not as round as the 3" template that I created. I checked Hehr's website and 3 3/8" radius seems to be pretty standard so I'm hoping my estimate is just off.
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