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Old 08-22-2012, 02:17 PM   #29
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Just from my own experience: 2003 VW Golf factory roof rack mounting points have a 165lb rating. 2011 Subaru Outback OEM roof rack has a 150lb rating.
Well... there ya go!
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Old 08-22-2012, 02:24 PM   #30
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Thanks for the links. And the idea.

That is funny, I have used old bed frame angle for a lot of projects over the years. At times getting a frame on the last day of a garage sale for a couple of bucks. Way cheaper than buying stock from the store. Have found that some are such a hard spring steel I can only cut with grinder and cut off wheel. Hack saw just ends up with rounded teeth. That is some strong, light stock and a good choice for something like this.
I have a cut-off saw which I use to cut up discarded bed frames.
I keep the resultant lengths of angle in my steel bin for project use.
I find that I often need titanium drill bits to drill it,yet it is still flexes under extreme stress. It is just the right stuff for my MIG... (welder not aircraft)
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Old 08-23-2012, 11:34 AM   #31
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I'm seeking creative ideas for taking along two mountain bikes in or on our 13' Scamp. The rooftop carrier on the tow vehicle will suffice for the bikes except on those trips in which we're also hauling the canoe.

We have hauled the bikes using a hitch rack in the 2" receiver on the Scamp's bumper. Honestly, that still seems the a very good potential option. Yet I'm not thrilled with the very low clearance, the options for increasing that clearance, the effectiveness of 1-1/4" to 2" receiver adapters, or even the extra weight of the bicycles hanging off the back.

I'm toying with a wide variety of options. One that intrigues me is a simple way of hauling the bikes inside the Scamp. If that were to be done, I'd want to be certain the bikes were secure to avoid damage to the interior. Another thought is to craft a hitch rack using, for example, the HITCH-HAUL® Clearance Bar and my current rooftop bike carriers.

So, oh creative forum members, please share your ideas and experiences.

Thanks!
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Hey Mike our solution has been to carry bikes inside our 13' Scamp, cleaner, safer and puts weight over axle. Hope images load.
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Well George I cant tell you how many times I have had to "miss something" on the road such as bikes that have managed to come off the back of trailers - sometimes with the racks still attached ;-)
I'm with Carol on this. We too have lost bikes to the pavement for various reasons (no fault of our own). Our 2 current bikes are worth as much as our trailer so they get transported and locked inside the trailer.
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I'm with Carol on this. We too have lost bikes to the pavement for various reasons (no fault of our own). Our 2 current bikes are worth as much as our trailer so they get transported and locked inside the trailer.
I like the idea of transporting the bikes inside the trailer, but we use our trailer while in transit as well as at our destination.
What do you do with your bikes when you're using your trailer or at campsite?
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Hey there Floyd. We have a hall way located in the centre of our trailer beside the bed/couch. The bikes go in that area and it is still easy to walk by them to the rear head. It is not ideal but the best solution for us. The flooring is laminate so easy cleanup if some dirt comes in with the bikes. We take off the front wheels of the bikes so they fit in that space better.

At the campsite we chain them to the back bumper of the trailer and put a plastic tarp over them. No need to advertise their existance and the tarp keeps them dry when it rains.
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I like the idea of transporting the bikes inside the trailer, but we use our trailer while in transit as well as at our destination.
What do you do with your bikes when you're using your trailer or at campsite?
For me with bikes inside I couldn't open the fridge or bathroom door - the main reasons I ended up with them on a roof rack for traveling long distances and to secure them while at a campground. For short 4-5 hour trips carrying them inside isnt an issue. There are issues with carrying them on the roof in the winter though - road salt etc so I would prefer them inside in the winter if possible.

What I like about my roof mount system over my very good rear mount rack is the added security not to mention the rear rack was/is pretty darn heavy and try as I might to stop it from bouncing it bounces!

The roof mount rack has a key locking system that works fine for short stops (or at least it has so far) but on longer stops and/or in the campground its supplemented with a more serious chain lock to the more permanently attached front to back portion of the roof rack (not the removable crossbars), through the bikes wheels/frame etc. Going to be a real louder racket if someone tries to take the bikes off the roof as the roof rack cross bars are going to have to go with them or be hacked through. I know what a pain it was to install the cross bars. Not to mention it takes a very special tool made only by vehicle manufacturer to get the rack off the car! Dont ask how I know that!! The other big sound will be the car alarm going off - I need to open the car doors in order to reach the bikes. If someone rocks the car while trying to get at the bikes without the car or rack keys they will trigger the car alarm. Not saying the bikes cant be stolen from the roof as there probable is some creative sole out there that can do it but I think its going to be a lot harder to do & with a lot more sound than it would have been taking them off my hitch mount rack. A friend lost 2 bikes that were locked to a rear rack with the racks key lock and a cable lock last year while they slept inside at the rear of the trailer - didnt hear a thing!

As been correctly pointed out the cost of insuring bikes these days is crazy! It cost almost twice as much to insure one bike per year over the cost of insuring the trailer That's even with having one million in liability and collision insurance on the trailer. Without the extra insurance rider for the bikes many home insurance policies will cap their payout at around $1000 some less or at least that's the case with my insurance company - take the big claim deductible (mines $500) out of that and its hardly worth the claim.
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I like the idea of transporting the bikes inside the trailer, but we use our trailer while in transit as well as at our destination.
What do you do with your bikes when you're using your trailer or at campsite?
At our destination the bikes will be locked to trailer, but often we don't lock them, depends on campgrounds. When in transit we remove bikes from inside. Takes just a few minutes. Like I said before it works for us.

Like Carol said I would prefer roof rack, but I have bad shoulders and bikes are 30-35 pounds.
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Hey there Floyd. We have a hall way located in the centre of our trailer beside the bed/couch. The bikes go in that area and it is still easy to walk by them to the rear head. It is not ideal but the best solution for us. The flooring is laminate so easy cleanup if some dirt comes in with the bikes. We take off the front wheels of the bikes so they fit in that space better.

At the campsite we chain them to the back bumper of the trailer and put a plastic tarp over them. No need to advertise their existance and the tarp keeps them dry when it rains.
but Mike and I have Scamp 13s, A toy hauler would make it even easier.
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We don't yet own an egg, but I'm wondering if it would be possible to use a strap-mounted rack attached to the rear hatch of the tow vehicle?
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We don't yet own an egg, but I'm wondering if it would be possible to use a strap-mounted rack attached to the rear hatch of the tow vehicle?
There are nearly unlimited rack/tow vehicle combinations. It may be possible for certain ones. My guess is that it would require something with a trunk or slanted hatch with a high forward mounted rack.
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I'm toying with a wide variety of options. One that intrigues me is a simple way of hauling the bikes inside the Scamp. If that were to be done, I'd want to be certain the bikes were secure to avoid damage to the interior.
Thanks!
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You mean like this?
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I'm guessing everybody already had bicycles they like and are looking for solutions to an existing problem. My regular bicycles had been stolen years ago, so we started over from scratch. We bought 2 Adventurer Six-Speed Folding Bikes and 2 Folding Bike Carry Bags. They travel inside the Odyssey as my LX model does not have a roof rack.
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Thanks Indeed Mr. Floyd,
I really like this setup better than on the back!!!

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It is my own design, but it is based on a few simple parts and a couple of ideas.
Here is a link to the type, if not the brand of racks used....

http://www.bikerackshops.com/vehicle...ght_roof_rack/


I used an old boxfan frame for the sides and angle iron from old bed frames for the crossmembers. the feet are made of angle as well.
The idea is to get the bikes as close to the trailer as possible to allow full articulation clearance when turning.
This is accomplished in two ways...
1] Get the rack up high enough to allow the inside bike handle bar to just clear the top of the trailer or at least to take advantage of the natural contour (in the case of a Scamp)
2] Attach the rack rails facing in opposite directions so as to allow them (and the bikes) to be as close together as possible.
My frame work has since been modified to allow for storage of my "legoblock" levelers below the bikes and above the propane tank.
You could consider any sturdy structure which would firmly secure the racks in the right position.
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