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Old 07-05-2018, 03:23 PM   #1
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Help Comparing Casita 16' with Scamp 16

I'm hunting for my first fiberglass RV and I've narrowed it down to two. I would appreciate any insight you can add to my understanding of the differences between the Casita 16' and Scamp 16. Here's what I understand so far thanks to the forum:
General differences between the two companies:
Enclosed fiberglass bottom (Casita) vs unenclosed (Scamp)
Casita heavier tongue weight
Casita larger bathroom
Ceiling height, Casita (5'10") Scamp (6'3")
Other differences beside varying floor plans?
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Old 07-05-2018, 04:12 PM   #2
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casita uses a sort of short-nap shag carpet for the liner/insulation, scamp uses a fuzzy marine headliner material known as 'rat fur'.

casita 'deluxe' (with the bath) comes with a lot of standard stuff, which is largely optional on a scamp.

the casita 16's are pretty light on the tongue, but a scamp 16 is probably even lighter, depending on equipment, of course.
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Old 07-06-2018, 10:12 AM   #3
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We have had both and we found that the interior finish work and workmanship in the Scamp was much better. Example: sink in Casita wasn’t properly set, microwave installation wasn’t secure, etc. small things but frustrating.
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Old 07-06-2018, 10:31 AM   #4
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We have a 2013 Casita 17' SD. Bought new from Rice. Only issue was mount for the TV was on backwards and it took me 3 months to figure that out, since it sort of worked as it was installed, just now optimum. Only issue, fixed myself after a lot of head scratching. Never contacted Casita about it. If the size does not deter you Casita is top notch in my book, but I have not even been in a Scamp.

Having said that my intention is to stop in Backus to tour the factory this camping season. Want to see the Scamp 5th wheel. We want something bigger than the 17' Casita, and the Scamp 19 may work for us.

The only other trailer that meets our minimal criteria is the AS 25FB twin. But MSRP on a new 2019 with options is $97,000. The AS 28RBQ is $120,000. So used is the only real option...very used.

We visited the Escape factory in Chilliwack Canada and the Oliver Factory in Hohenwald, TN. Looked at the Big Foot. Now we will go to Backus at look at the Scamp 19, None of which are a big step up as far as I am concerned. That is, the Casita does 90% of what these other units do. I would have to pay another $30K to $80K to get that last 10%. Not likely.
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Old 07-06-2018, 10:46 AM   #5
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We have a 2013 Casita 17' SD. Bought new from Rice. Only issue was Mount for the TV was on backwards and it took me 3 months to figure that out, since it wort of worked as it was installed just now optimum. Only issue, fixed myself after a lot of head scratching. Never contacted Casita about it. If the size does not deter you Casita is top notch in my book, but I have not even been in a Scamp.

Having said that my intention is to stop in Backus to tour the factory this camping season. Want to see the Snap 5th wheel. We want something bigger than the 17' Casita, and the Scamp 19 may work for us.

The only other trailer that meets our minimal criteria is the AS 25FB twin. But MSRP on a new 2019 with options is $97,000. The AS 28RBQ is $120,000. So used is the only real option...very used.

We visited the Escape factory in Chilliwack Canada and the Oliver Factory in Hohenwald, TN. Looked at the Big Foot. Now we will go to Backus at look at the Scamp 19, None of which are a big step up as far as I am concerned. That is, the Casita does 90% of what these other units do. I would have to pay another $30K to $80K to get that last 10%. Not likely.
We had a Scamp 16 and currently own a Casita 17 SD
Both trailer have exceeded our expectations and as Rzrbrn says they do 90% of what the high end trailers do . We would like a larger trailer but canít justify the high additional cost just to gain that 10%
I would take a serious look at the Scamp 16 ft Deluxe
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Old 07-06-2018, 12:57 PM   #6
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I'm hunting for my first fiberglass RV and I've narrowed it down to two. I would appreciate any insight you can add to my understanding of the differences between the Casita 16' and Scamp 16. Here's what I understand so far thanks to the forum:
General differences between the two companies:
Enclosed fiberglass bottom (Casita) vs unenclosed (Scamp)
Casita heavier tongue weight
Casita larger bathroom
Ceiling height, Casita (5'10") Scamp (6'3")
Other differences beside varying floor plans?
The quality of the Casita is better than the Scamp. Of course you can get a bad anything and that messes up their ratings. Anytime we've seen a Scamp the exterior is dull. When we see a fiberglass coming we always know the Scamps vs the Casita's by sight. Casita's are mostly bright and shiny if taken care of at all. We've compared many Scamps and they do not have the amenities that a Casita does. Seems like Casita makes a lot of amenities free but Scamp doesn't. Many Scamps don't have bathrooms where Casita puts them in all their trailers. We bought a new Casita in 2007 and love it. Everything works good and it has all we want. I won't camp without a bathroom, bed, stove and fridge.
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Old 07-06-2018, 01:21 PM   #7
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Many Scamps don't have bathrooms where Casita puts them in all their trailers.
actually, only the Casita "Deluxe" models have the bathroom, however, non deluxe models are pretty rare.

The most common Casita 16', the "Spirit" model, 'deluxe' includes..
  • wardrobe closet
  • shower, toilet, black tank
  • sewer hose (optional on non-Dlx)
  • front mount A/C (optional on non-Dlx)
  • grey tank (optional on non-deluxe)
  • water heater (optional on non-Dlx)

the 16 non-deluxe has a front couch convertible to bunk beds instead of all of the above.
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Old 07-06-2018, 01:27 PM   #8
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actually, only the Casita "Deluxe" models have the bathroom, however, non deluxe models are pretty rare.

The most common Casita 16', the "Spirit" model, 'deluxe' includes..
  • wardrobe closet
  • shower, toilet, black tank
  • sewer hose (optional on non-Dlx)
  • front mount A/C (optional on non-Dlx)
  • grey tank (optional on non-deluxe)
  • water heater (optional on non-Dlx)

the 16 non-deluxe has a front couch convertible to bunk beds instead of all of the above.
17' Casita's have the A/C on the roof and usually includes a heat strip which is wonderful when it is cold and you have electric. It also has a furnace for dry camping. We have a deluxe and have never seen a Casita without a toilet. Guess they are extremely rare. The 17' seems much roomier.
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Old 07-06-2018, 01:49 PM   #9
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So there you have it. If you have a Casita, that is better.
If you have a Scamp, that is better
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17' Casita's have the A/C on the roof and usually includes a heat strip which is wonderful when it is cold and you have electric. It also has a furnace for dry camping. We have a deluxe and have never seen a Casita without a toilet. Guess they are extremely rare. The 17' seems much roomier.
well, when you figure a 16" has about a 11-12 foot 'box', adding a foot, plus additional headroom, makes for a significant amount more space. and the roof AC allows for a larger closet.

afaik, the furnaces are an option on all of them, but one that almost everyone gets.
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Notice that the responses turned to comparing the Scamp16 to the Casita17.
Casita sells their 17 almost at the exclusion of their 16 and they have stopped production of their 13 altogether. It has been the experience of many buyers that Casita strongly discourages the sale of the 16 and did so with the 13 as well.
The comment about the gelcoat difference is at best mistaken and at least subjective and objectively just plain false.


The Casita16 deluxe does not compare with the Scamp16 deluxe.


It is only fair to say that the Casita16 can only be fairly compared to the Scamp16 Standard. As for amenities, not being optional does not mean free.
Price is comparable with comparable "amenities".


Casita doesn't sell very many 16s, so they are a bit rare on the used market compared to the Scamp16.


Casita16 has a greater angle of departure.

They both offer comparable front baths which are optional in both makes.

I would think that you should start by comparing each website, which provides details of what's available.

There are some differences which are mostly minor in the grand scheme of things.
None of the differences affect the amazing to incredible longevity of either trailer, in spite of the hype.


There are some differences which affect the aesthetics and the individual perception of comfort.
The Scamp has a little wider aisle.
The wall covering is different.
The Casita has bigger wheels.
Interior height is greater on the Scamp.
The A/C is roof mount on the Scamp.




Most of the differences must be seen or touched or experienced to come to a decision as to which you like better. Either would be an excellent choice with subjective details.


If you are buying one for me??... I will take a Scamp Deluxe side dinette... please.

If you are buying one for you??... Look and touch both, and decide which is best for you, resting assured that you are getting one of the finest travel trailers in the world either way.
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Thanks, it's been so helpful to read yours and other comments. I'm getting a much clearer picture.
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So there you have it. If you have a Casita, that is better.
If you have a Scamp, that is better


rotfl. better the devil you know, eh?
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The quality of the Casita is better than the Scamp. Of course you can get a bad anything and that messes up their ratings.
Impossible to prove. I have read glowing and critical accounts of both makes. No one is collecting and reporting objective data, so what "ratings"?
Anytime we've seen a Scamp the exterior is dull. When we see a fiberglass coming we always know the Scamps vs the Casita's by sight. Casita's are mostly bright and shiny if taken care of at all.
There is no difference in the fiberglass molding process. If there are in fact more dull Scamps than Casitas, it's about the owners, not the trailers.
We've compared many Scamps and they do not have the amenities that a Casita does. Seems like Casita makes a lot of amenities free but Scamp doesn't. Many Scamps don't have bathrooms where Casita puts them in all their trailers.
They're not free; they're included in the base price, which is higher than Scamp. Similarly equipped 16' Scamps and Casitas are comparably priced. If a Scamp lacks an amenity, it was the original purchaser's choice.
We bought a new Casita in 2007 and love it. Everything works good and it has all we want.
I say exactly the same about our Scamp (except we bought ours used). The fact that we both love our 10-year-old trailers is more a testimony to the overall value of molded trailers in general.
I won't camp without a bathroom, bed, stove and fridge.
Both Scamp and Casita offer all those features and more. Or less, if that's your preference. Both Scamp and Casita can be ordered without a bathroom if desired for more sleeping space.
Comparing the Scamp and Casita 16' models, it comes down to layout (each offers floorplans the other doesn't), a few substantive differences (floor design, headroom, A/C type and location, suspension height, fridge size) and subjective impressions of finish materials.
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