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Old 05-30-2014, 07:33 AM   #15
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"Load Capacity" may not be a number available for most FGRV's, especially in the used arena. If a rig isn't listed in the real weights list, posting your interest here might get additional information.

The real point is that dry weight numbers from manufacturers often do not reflect out-the-door weights as delivered. I don't recall seeing any sales sheets that included figures to add or subtract from given weights based on options and/or deletions.

Items like spare tire, a/c, microwave and even toilet options may not be included and can add significantly to the starting weight.

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Old 05-30-2014, 08:40 AM   #16
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It's a bit long and detailed, but you may want to give this thread a read:
Towing Definitions-Understanding Towing weight terms

Knowing what a trailer will actually weigh when you load it is tricky. In theory, you start with the dry weight. That should include everything that is standard on the base model, but no options and no fluids (e.g., water, propane). But published dry weights can be deceptive. On a Scamp, for example, the refrigerator, bathroom, AC, furnace, HW heater, and battery are all optional. Add those things and fill the propane tanks, and you've probably already added a few hundred pounds even before you start to add your own stuff. So, as Bob suggests, adding 500-750 pounds to the dry weight gives you a rough guess and place to start.

The GVWR is simply the extreme upper limit of the trailer and everything in it. It is determined by the maximum weight the frame, axle, and tires can carry. Some manufacturers list a payload (or load capacity) as GVWR minus the dry weight. That number, though, has to include options and fluids, as well as your stuff.

Another source of information is the thread Trailer Weights in the Real World.
These are actual weights of specific makes and models as loaded for travel (by real people, so the same trailer may have several different weights listed). There are three numbers: axle weight, tongue weight, and total (axle+tongue). The second two are both important in relation to the towing capacity of your vehicle.

Once you buy a trailer, it would be a good idea to take it to a public scale (loaded for travel) and see what it really weighs.

Another consideration is the type of travel you will be doing. If I were planning shorter trips on fairly level terrain at low altitudes, I would be comfortable pulling a trailer that is fairly close to my vehicle's weight limit (I read 80% somewhere recently). But if I were planning a cross country expedition and exploring the Rockies, I personally would want more reserve capacity. Otherwise you may find yourself creeping up a long mountain grade at 15 mph. Something else to consider…

I wish you the best in getting all this sorted out. I appreciate that you are thinking everything through carefully.

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Old 05-30-2014, 08:04 PM   #17
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At risk of further complicating an already confusing discussion…

When is 3500 pounds NOT 3500 pounds?

At least for my 2011 Honda Pilot, it's when extra people are riding in it. I have no idea what your Highlander's owner's manual may or may not say, but Honda devotes a whole page to the following chart, which specifies how tow ratings are reduced according to the number of 150 lb. adults on board. It does make sense that more people in the car means less on the back.

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Since you mention traveling with four people, it's something else to weigh into your decision (pun intended). Cargo in the vehicle would have a similar effect, I presume, though Honda isn't quite so anal as to include a detailed chart of that (though, according to the fine print, they do factor in 15 pounds of personal effects per passenger)!
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Old 06-01-2014, 07:24 PM   #18
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hi John
A confusing topic indeed. So to be safe maybe adding 1500 lbs to the trailer wright dry weight is best to account for stuff and passengers plus tongue weight. Better to e safe than sorry getting something that by adding 1500 Lbs would go over the 3500 limit best to go light S I possibly can and[ that will hold 4 comfortably. I should be able to find something

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