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Old 05-03-2010, 02:10 PM   #1
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I last used my Honda 2000i back in November, and when I started it up a few days ago in preparation for a new traveling season it started on the first pull, but when I move the choke to Off it starts surging like its going to quit. It does this even after its been running for a few minutes. The only way to stop it is to move the choke to halfway on. I think this would seem to indicate that its not getting enough fuel (tank is full). I have not tried running it with a load yet.

Any ideas on why it would do this? It's about five years old with maybe 50 hours on it.

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Old 05-03-2010, 02:14 PM   #2
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Do you put fuel stabilizer in the gas when not in use,?
Needles could be gumming up.

I would run it with a load for a few minutes,to help clear the old gas,and hopefully clear itself up.
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Old 05-03-2010, 02:31 PM   #3
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I normally put stabilizer in but forgot to for this last 6 months non-use period. So I added some to the half tank-full that was in it when this surging occurred, and filled it up with fresh fuel.

I'll let it run the A/C for awhile and see if that fixes it.
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I would run it for a few hrs.
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Old 05-03-2010, 03:25 PM   #5
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Plug a hair dryer into it for 10 minutes.
That will give it a work-out.
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My suggestion is to use some SeaFoam to clean up the carburetor.
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Old 05-03-2010, 04:47 PM   #7
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My suggestion is to use some SeaFoam to clean up the carburetor.
I double the seafoam (i got it at wal mart) recommendation and the hair dryer...... run it for about 30 minutes with eco off. be sure to only add enough seafoam as it says on the directions
That should help because mine did the same thing.
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Here is the story on Seafoam:

It is the strongest cleaner a non dealer (Civilian you and me) can purchase and it will clean your fuel system.

Here is the bad: If you have a float with a needle valve you must make sure the needle assembly DOES NOT have a rubber needle seat. Seafoam will swell up the rubber seat and restrict the flow. If this happens, open the carb up and let it air dry a couple of days and the rubber seat will go back to normal. If your needle assembly has a metal seat then run your engine RICH so the Seafoam will soften and pass the gum that is built up inside.

I ALWAYS put fuel stabilizer in the fuel can so whatever I fill I'm insured to have the stabilizer in the tank. I do this year round.
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make sure the air filter is clean
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Old 05-03-2010, 05:42 PM   #10
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Okay, thanks for all the advice. I just got through running it with a heater 1500 watt load, both in eco-mode and full speed, for 30 minutes. Still have the surging at idle. So, on to Plan B and SeaFoam! Will get some tomorrow and try it out - assuming no one has had trouble with their Honda carburetor rubber seats! I will report back on the results.

I always have used fuel stabilizer except for this winter when I had an extended senior moment and didn't! Bad Pat, bad!

I'll check the air cleaner as Plan C.
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when my dirt bikes only wanna run with the choke on, its cause the air filter is plugged up
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when my dirt bikes only wanna run with the choke on, its cause the air filter is plugged up
Oh, well maybe I should move checking the filter up to Plan B then. I was thinking closing the choke had the same impact as a clogged filter and thus it was unlikely to be the filter.
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It wasn't the filters. I took them out and they looked clean, so I ran it with no filters and the surging remained. Cleaned the filters and put them back - still surging.

So, a trip to Wally World and I got the last can of SeaFoam. Put a little less that 2oz in the nearly full tank, and started it up. Seemed to be surging less! Let it run with and without a load, eco-on and off, surging got less and less at eco-on idle. Finally after 30 minutes I decided it was acceptable. A very minor surge now, maybe like it always had?, and I'm going to run it every day for a week to fully move the SeaFoam past the jets and assorted parts.

So, problem solved, thanks to the advice given! See you all down the road.
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Glad to see it's working. That last little bit of surge should clear up too. I ran a tank thru some of my small motors at home and they do seem to run better. especially my old Jacobson snow blower.
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