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Old 05-15-2015, 08:28 AM   #29
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...Chandler stated he has cut a deal with a boat manufacturer and that is where the molds are. They will produce the shells, Chandler and an employee will finish them out. Production will go from one a week down to about one a month...
Looks to me as if Parkliner is in a death spiral.
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ParkLiner makes a great product, but their customer support has always been lacking...and that can leed to their downfall.

I guess most of us don't think about how hard it is for a very tiny company to keep their head above water in today's day and age. ParkLiner is struggling and it is kind of sad because they do make a good product, but to be successful besides a good product they need to get back to customer's in a timely manner, keep a presence online, hit some rv show's to show off what they do and meet deadlines.

I wish them the best, but many companies that offered good products at a good price have also gone out of business. Hopefully they will work past this.
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Ugh! Snow! lol

Looks like someone is having fun!
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Old 05-15-2015, 08:59 AM   #33
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Just an observation, from an observer without an MBA.


Unless it's going to be run as a "Hobby Business" I don't see any way in heck that a company with a building, fixed expenses and two employees can survived very long building one unit a month.


But that sorta explains Chandlers comments reported in Post #21.
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Struggling to me denotes striving to achieve or attain something.
Chandler had an opportunity to make PL into a larger more efficient company. He declined. He has exactly what he wants, it's his choice. He chose to be a boutique instead of large scale.
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I may very well be wrong Bob, but I believe Chandler is not hurting for cash. I think he provided the seed money for the company to begin with, and is probably not worried about buying groceries. So if he doesn't need to get paid, maybe it will work.

It is truly sad to see such a well designed trailer go down the tubes all because of a lack of attention to existing and new customers. Sheesh!

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David I would love to hear you try and sell that to a room full of MBA grads!

The fact the company can't even afford to pay someone min. wage to answer their phones, emails and maintain their web presents says a lot about just how well they are not doing.
Well Carole, I don't hang with MBA grads, but I would say it is self explanatory. If you provide great customer service, and a high quality product, then you cost will be high. You must sacrifice at least one of these three. Not being an MBA grad, I could be wrong. But it seems pretty basic to me. Perhaps one of your MBA grad friends could explain it to me.
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I may very well be wrong Bob, but I believe Chandler is not hurting for cash. I think he provided the seed money for the company to begin with, and is probably not worried about buying groceries. So if he doesn't need to get paid, maybe it will work.

It is truly sad to see such a well designed trailer go down the tubes all because of a lack of attention to existing and new customers. Sheesh!

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I was told by Chandler a couple of years ago that he had a financial backer that caused him to have less control than he would have liked. Perhaps he has finally paid back that debt and can now run his company as he wants. There are other molded fiberglass companies that have been successful without mass production. It will be interesting to watch what happens with ParkLiner.
I personally could not (we owned a ParkLiner...which was NOT a prototype... for a short period of time) and would not support a company that treats its customers as ParkLiner has and does. But those who know this situation up-front and are willing to risk the issues they will most likely have, obviously are willing to overlook this reality of the company. I wish them luck.
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Well Carole, I don't hang with MBA grads, but I would say it is self explanatory. If you provide great customer service, and a high quality product, then you cost will be high. You must sacrifice at least one of these three. Not being an MBA grad, I could be wrong. But it seems pretty basic to me. Perhaps one of your MBA grad friends could explain it to me.
All three of your stated criteria are subjective, therefore I can say that there are many companies out there who offer high quality products at competitive prices while still giving great customer service.
Scamp is a good example of such.

It was once said pertaining to custom cars... (I paraphrase)..."You can have one unit for a million dollars or a million units for a dollar each."

There is a minimum production number which must be reached to achieve critical mass, and certain efficiencies in management required if a business is to survive. Common sense and diligence will out perform a diploma every time.
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In business, you can have great quality, great price, and great service. Pick any two. You can't have all three. Parkliner has sacrificed service for the other two. I think that they will do fine.
I truly believe that Escape has a great balance of the three. The first two items are a balance of value. If the quality received is worth the price asked, a proper balance is achieved, and Escape meets this goal. As far as service goes, ask any of the now well over 1,000 Escape purchasers, and you will hear that folks are extremely happy with the service they receive.

Have you ever heard of an unresolved issue with Escape, or at least one they are not trying to deal with?

There is a good reason that Escape owners are thrilled with their purchase, and are ready in a heartbeat to tout it's merits. Sure, there are other great trailers out there, but none that match this balance as well as Escape.

My belief with Parkliner, who I do think makes a great product, is that even if they did not produce near as many trailers for a bit, and focused more on the service end of things, that in short order they would become a more popular company to deal with, resulting in a long term gain.
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Jim, I think you make my point. The balance that you refer to, many call expensive. I don't mean to say that Escape trailers are not worth the cost, but they provide a high quality product, with great customer service, consequently the cost is high.
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Myself, I don't think the cost for an Escape is high at all, not for what you get. If the issue is that it is too expensive for one's budget, then they would have to look for something that offers less value, and costs less.

Just as in buying a home. You can get a great price on a $1,000,000 home, or overspend on a $200,000 one.

This is why I say you need to group your first two factors together, and look for good value and service in a product.

Just my take on it.
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I truly believe that Escape has a great balance of the three. The first two items are a balance of value. If the quality received is worth the price asked, a proper balance is achieved, and Escape meets this goal. As far as service goes, ask any of the now well over 1,000 Escape purchasers, and you will hear that folks are extremely happy with the service they receive.

Have you ever heard of an unresolved issue with Escape, or at least one they are not trying to deal with?

There is a good reason that Escape owners are thrilled with their purchase, and are ready in a heartbeat to tout it's merits. Sure, there are other great trailers out there, but none that match this balance as well as Escape.

My belief with Parkliner, who I do think makes a great product, is that even if they did not produce near as many trailers for a bit, and focused more on the service end of things, that in short order they would become a more popular company to deal with, resulting in a long term gain.
Thanks for reinforcing my point. I think that Scamp strikes an even better balance of value and service.
Yours and mine... both subjective judgements with merits in their logic.
Scamp is now in its fifth decade and still showing growth and a policy of constant improvement.
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