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Old 07-11-2011, 08:20 AM   #15
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I also had a leak at the back of an older Trillium. Much to my chagrin, I would always find water after the rain in the left rear passenger compartment. Once I removed the back window, replaced the wood trim and resealed it with butyl tape, I had no other problems. Sometimes the water will not turn up where you expect it...it would move through channels in the Ensolite and find a way to the bottom, not necessarily under the leak. Best of luck with it.
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Old 07-11-2011, 08:45 AM   #16
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So a 2 year warranty means we will mail you stuff to fix it yourself, instead of the traditional find your nearest local RV dealer and we will pay the bill. Yes, i am aware of being factory direct, but they still could offer the traditional method if they wanted. When you call about a warranty claim do you deal with Mattman or Tom? And is Tom involved anywhere in the purchase process? Thanks everyone for sharing your experience here.
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Old 07-11-2011, 09:42 AM   #17
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So a 2 year warranty means we will mail you stuff to fix it yourself, instead of the traditional find your nearest local RV dealer and we will pay the bill. Yes, i am aware of being factory direct, but they still could offer the traditional method if they wanted. When you call about a warranty claim do you deal with Mattman or Tom? And is Tom involved anywhere in the purchase process? Thanks everyone for sharing your experience here.
Tom was our original contact back in 2010. Tom did offer to come out and do the repairs, but he seems to be very busy ... and promises he made last year went unfulfilled. Our confidence level was pretty low. We had no contact with Mattman until they called us in February of this year. Once the replacement deal fell through, they put the ball back in Tom's court. I hope our experience is unique .

We are located in central Vermont, pretty far from any boat or rv repair shops. Raz and I trust his skills over some outfit we don't know, so we decided to do the repair research (thank you, FGRV forum) and do the work ourselves ... successfully, I think!

And now, we're going campin' ... rain or no rain !
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snoozy has offered to repair fiberglass in SC. Closer than California but still far away I know. Just tossing that idea out there in case you haven't heard. Good luck.
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A friend just walked in to mattman to get me a price list and they had none to give out. Just a basic brochure on the trailer, nothing else. I thought that was kind of goofy, oh well
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Old 07-11-2011, 09:04 PM   #20
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Thanks Maggie and Raz for sharing your experience, it looks like you've done a real professional job of finding the problem and fixing it thoroughly.

I had pulled back the ensolite in the closet of our older trillium (there was some odd smell in the closet that was bothering me and i needed to get it down to the glass to clean it properly) and when I was done I used 3m super 77 spray adhesive to put the ensolite back up. the 3m spray adhesive didn't live up to my expectations. Every so often the ensolite starts to let go in places and I have found it in a heap a few times at the bottom of the closet. Interestingly there is enough tack for me to press it back into place without regluing (i did add some adhesive one time) but i intend to clean things up and try again with another product, probably contact cement.

it would be interesting to find out from the manufacturer what was used the first time around to put up the wall covering.

best of luck and have fun camping, hope there are no more stressful surprises.

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Old 07-12-2011, 12:08 AM   #21
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Hi, Maggie and Raz

All I can say is...
I'm really horrified that you've had so much trouble with such a new Trillium.
I had a bit of a leak in the rear of my '78, again attritutable to the rusted out belly band rivet holders. I was able to stop it fairly easily- nothing like the total nightmare you guys have gone through.
What on earth can have changed in the manufacturing process to lead to such a fiasco???? Your trailer is from the same molds as mine- I just don't get it.
Thanks for the detailed pictures- I'm interested that the belly band rivet holders appear to have been installed from the inside and then lightly glassed over- am I seeing that correctly? If so, that's definitely different from the way mine were installed. And please tell me that those rivet holders are aluminum, and not the steel that's given all of us so much grief. I'd like to hear that somebody learned about "the electrolysis factor" that makes aluminum rot steel, and stopped putting those aluminum rivets in a steel holder.
Keeping my fingers crossed...

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I don't know Franscsca, my 4500 is a 78' and the rivet plates were definitely installed on the inside then glassed over. I know as I got VERY up close and personal with them as I yanked them out.
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I don't know Franscsca, my 4500 is a 78' and the rivet plates were definitely installed on the inside then glassed over. I know as I got VERY up close and personal with them as I yanked them out.
Hi, Scott

But...if that's true...then I'd be ...I don't know if I can say it....can it be possible that I'm (gasp) wrong about that???

I think a hole has just been torn in the fabric of my universe.

Must lie down with wet rag on head...

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Old 07-12-2011, 02:20 PM   #24
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Hi, Maggie and Raz

All I can say is...
I'm really horrified that you've had so much trouble with such a new Trillium.
I had a bit of a leak in the rear of my '78, again attritutable to the rusted out belly band rivet holders. I was able to stop it fairly easily- nothing like the total nightmare you guys have gone through.
What on earth can have changed in the manufacturing process to lead to such a fiasco???? Your trailer is from the same molds as mine- I just don't get it.
Thanks for the detailed pictures- I'm interested that the belly band rivet holders appear to have been installed from the inside and then lightly glassed over- am I seeing that correctly? If so, that's definitely different from the way mine were installed. And please tell me that those rivet holders are aluminum, and not the steel that's given all of us so much grief. I'd like to hear that somebody learned about "the electrolysis factor" that makes aluminum rot steel, and stopped putting those aluminum rivets in a steel holder.
Keeping my fingers crossed...

Francesca
Yes, the rivet holds are on the inside and glassed over...at least now they are. It never occurred to me to see what they are made of until now. My trusty magnet tells me they are steel. The belly band is aluminum and the holders, they look like fender washers, appear to be steel aswell. As I saw no rust, the rivets might be aluminum with steel mandrels or stainless steel although typically stainless steel is not magnetic. Raz
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Yes, the rivet holds are on the inside and glassed over...at least now they are. It never occurred to me to see what they are made of until now. My trusty magnet tells me they are steel. The belly band is aluminum and the holders, they look like fender washers, appear to be steel aswell. As I saw no rust, the rivets might be aluminum with steel mandrels or stainless steel although typically stainless steel is not magnetic. Raz
Hi, Raz, you cute little optimist, you...

Here's me:

Or maybe I mean

Aluminum+steel= rotten, rusted steel....and yet-I'd bet your bottom dollar they're still doing it!
The Trillium Class of '10 slept through the Electrolysis Course just like the Class of '78.
I wish they'd lay off the booze on School Nights.

Wouldn't you think they could just hammer their beer cans flat and stick 'em in there?

(Sigh)

Francesca

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For everyone's Viewing Pleasure...
Below is a post from Trillium Tom himself, from May 29th 2006! HOW DO I RE-ATTACH BELLY BAND
Not a word about the materials defect, but that's an interesting diagram he's posted!

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Galvanic series shows steel relativly close to aluminum. So I would expect low activity between them. Now stainless steel and aluminum are quite a bit further apart. A larger issue there I suspect. What am I missing?
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OMG! Maggie I feel horrible for you but glad you could fix it. After dealing with a leak issue myself, mostly in the rear driver side storage compartment and on top of the bench, I am thinking I might have to go the route you did. A lot of work for someone who didn't want a project. Even more distressing for you who bought a new trailer! I have resealed one window, which unfortunately wasn't the source, and will continue one by one. If it still happens then I guess the ensolite will be coming off unless I determine where it is coming in Just an F.Y.I. I live just outside Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) and a dealer here called Arrkann Trailer used to carry the new Trillium line. I was just talking to one of the service guys there and they said they dropped the line because they had sooooo many problems with them. What's that saying??? If only you knew then what you know now???!!!
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