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Old 12-17-2002, 09:21 PM   #15
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Thanks, Lanny

Sorry for the problems, but glad that you finally was able to get back in. I was wondering if your windows were different and they are. Thanks for posting the pics...now maybe we can get our heads together and figure out what the problem is.

I was wondering, since yours pivots out (like my emergency window) if there may have been a gasket there at one time. Having older units is fun, but can be frustrating trying to figure out how it use to be when there aren't that many like that still out there!

The last owners had done some kind of monkey rig on the thing which was worse than no gasket. Casita sent me three different samples....that was the easy part. Hard part was trying to get a 'best fit' with one of them. Finally did it, and it stopped leaking after I cleaned out the holes.

Since your installation on the others didn't cause leaks and the window opens as it does, I'm thinking gasket or misplacement of current gasket. What are your thoughts?
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Old 12-17-2002, 09:28 PM   #16
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Drain holes

Drain Holes
Lanny, it is hard for me to tell the exact placement of the drain holes, but it appears to me that when the window is closed that they would drain into the frame. If so, where does it drain out of the frame?
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Old 12-17-2002, 10:14 PM   #17
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Suz, I'm clueless. I put them back in like they came out after I refurbished them. I have never seen another Casita besides mine except in pictures so I have nothing to compare them to.. I have no idea how these are supposed to look. They were a mess, as was the whole camper when I got it. Everything in it was rotten or rusted.
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Old 12-17-2002, 10:23 PM   #18
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leaking

you may have already done this, but in case not, I'll say it. Call Casita and show them the pics of this window. maybe it's not stock or they can tell you a gasket should be somewhere it's not.
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Old 12-18-2002, 06:18 AM   #19
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Suz, I don't think the original owner removed the windows. From the other attempts done as modifications, I think a project like removing windows would have been way out of his league.
I agree about "where do they drain"? I don't think these were intended to have weep hoes. Would that be likely? The windows leak profusely when opened slightly, opened all the way or closed as tightly as I can get them. My two large windows don't leak at all.

It appears that they leak between the glass frame and the frame mounted in the shell where they are hinged. I just can't figure out what to caulk?
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Old 12-18-2002, 06:20 AM   #20
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Oh yeah, I forgot, I have talked to Jay at Casita but he hasn't seen the pictures. I think his assumption was that I had just no caulked properly. Possible, but not likely.
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Old 12-18-2002, 06:24 AM   #21
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Lanny

Lanny ... just winging it here ... but have you visited your local home improvement store and looked at the various weatherstripping stuff?

Looking at your window, it seems you could maybe use a little strip of 1/8 inch adhesive-backed foam along the top and sides of the inside frame ... when shut, the exterior frame would compress the foam and perhaps stop the leak.

Since the foam is adhesive backed ... if it didn't work, it would be easy to undo.
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Old 12-18-2002, 06:26 AM   #22
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Don't put the foam along the bottom

Don't put the foam along the bottom. The "pictured" hole is a precursor to a weep hole ... in that it would allow any condensation on the inside of the window to drain off the window and out off the exterior frame.

It doesn't appear you have the type of window that had an actual drain channel.
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Old 12-18-2002, 06:37 AM   #23
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Leaking windows

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Because your windows tilt out there must be some sort of rubber seal or flap to stop the water coming in especially at the top. Perhaps this rubber is long gone.

Our Trillium windows tilt out also but there is three panels that tilt. They overlap each other but at the top of the top panel is a small rubber flap. Yours could be similar and is missing the top flap.
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Old 12-18-2002, 06:45 AM   #24
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Thanks Nancy, good morning.
I was thinking that there must be something missing but in spite of the terrible condition of everything on the trailer, I would think at least some fragment of the missing piece would have been still attached on one of the three windows? The design looked to be really simple. The outer frame holding the glass, just has a lip at the top which fits into a grove on the window from in the shell.. Its a puzzle?
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Old 12-18-2002, 07:53 AM   #25
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Thanks Charles,
I missed your note earlier.
there was , or is a foam strip on the inside. I had thought about replacing it but that would only contribute to stopping the leak when they are closed tight. Shouldn't I be able to have the windows open in the rain?
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Old 12-18-2002, 09:31 AM   #26
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Open in the rain

Lanny, I agree with Nancy ... if there is not some sort of rubber or plastic flap, then I don't think you'll be able to open the window in the rain ... or atleast open it very much.

I am more concerned about you saying the trailer leaks with the window shut.

If the foam you say was/is there seems to be something added after-market, perhaps by some dummy like me, maybe you should remove it and see if the window leaks in the rain.

Hey, I also just had a thought. I've seen RV's where the window is candilevered out a little bit at the top ... in other words, the top lip isn't flush against the side of the trailer, so that the lip catches water and channels it off to the sides. Maybe this is how these windows were orginally installed ... and when you installed it flat is allowing all the run-off from the roof to roll right over the window.

I've installed strips of EZ-gutter (I think Morgan installed a long strip to catch runoff along his awning) over all my windows ... not because any of them leak ... but just to channel some of the water away from the windows for good measure.

The EZ gutter stays stuck ... provided you prepare the trailer surface properly.

You might try a strip of EZ gutter.
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Old 12-18-2002, 10:09 AM   #27
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I think I have it

Hey, wait......

Sorry I've been out of pocket. This is exactly like my emergency window. DO NOT use the foam stuff. That is exactly what the former owners of mine did and it ends of serving as a wick once it get soaked. Plus, it was in the wrong place which made it hard for me to figure out where it went. Thanks to Charles, I finally got to the bottom of it.

Charles, don't you think it's like the gasket on the Emergency window?

Let me see if I can get a picture of my emergency window open...it will give you a better idea.
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Old 12-18-2002, 10:45 AM   #28
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Picture

Lanny, Unfortunately I am unable to accomplish the picture right now.

They are probably Hehr windows. You might give someone there a call. Even if they don't still makes those windows, someone may remember them.

Hang in there...we'll figure this out.
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