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Old 05-06-2016, 07:02 PM   #1
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Leaks... do we need to replace window seal?

So I guess the only good thing about having 6 days of rain in a row is that we now know all the places our '93 Scamp is leaking. We knew of 2 spots previously- from the roof vent, which I'm hoping is just because the cover is cracked. We have a new cover but still need to install it. The window over the stove was leaking and we will push that out and use butyl tape to put back in.

We found some new spots though this week. We can't quite figure out the source, but I'm guessing it's the back window based on how the seal looks. It also appears that the p.o. used a lot of silicone to try to deal with it. So do we need to replace the back window or is there any other solution? See pictures of the windows below (sorry don't know how to make them not so big). We keep trying to come up with ways to temporarily deal with it but I'm guessing we just need to bite the bullet and redo the whole thing? Probably front and back.

If only it would stop raining so we could work on it! We leave for AK 7 weeks from today and the Scamp seems to be a bigger project every time we look at it! Hoping to have time to get done what we have to. I'm sure I'll keep the questions coming!

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Line of water inside:


Front window (hard to see but has cracks in the seal):
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Old 05-06-2016, 07:23 PM   #2
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The rubber seals look seriously hardened and cracked from age and UV light from Sun exposure. I would order the seals and replace them all. The way they are looks pretty bad, you will be happy when it's done and looking like new.

Re: the pictures. Use the "Go Advanced" option and then "Manage Attachments" and upload your pics. They will show as thumbnails in your post.
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Old 05-06-2016, 08:02 PM   #3
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Yeah, that's what I thought. I wonder if we should get new windows too- they are kind of old and scratched up. Can a glass place do that? Do we have to take them the old window to size it?

I'll fix the photos tomorrow- thanks!
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Old 05-06-2016, 08:08 PM   #4
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SEE: Front & Rear Windows - Boler-Camping

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https://youtu.be/Byyp4i39Lro
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if those are the solid plexiglass windows they can be ordered from Scamp, $45 and $55. They sell the rubber weatherstrip by the foot. You'll also need the lock strip and you'll need the lock strip tool, Lisle #47000. Buy a little extra of the weatherstrip as you need to cut it to exact length as you install it. Installation can be challenging, my Uhaul has similar side windows. The tool may be found at some auto parts stores or from Amazon
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Old 05-07-2016, 07:43 AM   #6
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I've watched installation videos and I think we're handy enough to put in the windows, but I don't think handy enough to make our own. I wonder what shipping from Scamp would be. Seems like it would be cheaper to find a local source. I also like the idea of a slightly tinted window.
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Old 05-07-2016, 06:33 PM   #7
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U can go to Home depot or a Lowes ! They cut u plexiglass or
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Old 05-07-2016, 09:22 PM   #8
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I would assume that the windows from Scamp would fit the best. Call them and ask about shipping. Someone here mentioned shipping prices were better if you call. I bought two windows from Scamp and they were very well packed. You'll need the weatherstrip too. The similar weatherstrip I used on our Uhaul was only available in 50 foot lengths from Perfectfit.
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Remember that you have the old window as a template if you decide to source the plexiglass locally. Main thing is to get the same thickness. Cutting plexiglass is not that hard. This is one of many tutorial videos a search turned up:
Cutting Plexiglass Four Ways

I can't be sure, but it looks like your back window has the modified flat space for a slider. Personally, I love my opening window at the back. It would cost some bucks to order and ship from Scamp, and at this juncture you may just want to get this rig on the road at minimal cost. Understandable. But if you're planning to keep it a while, it might be a worthy investment. Assuming the opening is the same size (which I think likely, and Scamp could tell you), installation of the slider is easier than plexiglass.
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The Scamp rear slider windows use a clamp ring to hold them in, much easier than wrestling with that rubber weatherstrip. I have no idea if the slider will replace the plexiglass window. I do know that the stick on foam type strip that Scamp sent with the window did not work for me, I had to pull the window back out and use butyl tape to seal it. But I was installing the window in a Uhaul camper, so some difference there. I bought one rear and one side window from Scamp. They were wrapped in some soft material and in a custom built wood box. Shipping by UPS was $60, that was May 2012, shipped to eastern NY
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Hi CarrieR,
Just letting you know we have a '91 scamp with all the same leaks you have. We ordered the back sliding window to replace the plexiglass one. Bill installed it by himself and had no problems. Leak back there is fixed! The difference in ventilation with the back slider is huge improvement and much nicer than the previous plexiglass which is thin and just held in with rubber seal. We highly recommend this modification. Hope this helps! Laura (not Bill).
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Bob is correct. Use butyl tape to install a slider, if that's what you decide. Shame on Scamp if they suggest anything else!
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Bob is correct. Use butyl tape to install a slider, if that's what you decide. Shame on Scamp if they suggest anything else!
Scamp lists the foam rubber type tape as "window gasket" on their parts site. It's the stuff you buy in a hardware store to go around doors or windows in your house. I figured that since they sent it with the windows it must be what they use. I couldn't get it to compress enough for the window flange to set tight against the fiberglass. The butyl tape worked great.
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Scamp lists the foam rubber type tape as "window gasket" on their parts site. It's the stuff you buy in a hardware store to go around doors or windows in your house. I figured that since they sent it with the windows it must be what they use. I couldn't get it to compress enough for the window flange to set tight against the fiberglass. The butyl tape worked great.
Who knows, it may well be! My Scamp came with a fair bit of silicone around the windows, too. Not sure if the culprit was Scamp or the previous owner, but from what I've read, it may have been Scamp. I'm not going to do anything until the windows need resealing. But when the time comes, I will definitely use butyl. And it may come soon, as the silicone is peeling off and looks unsightly.
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