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Old 03-23-2012, 12:28 PM   #1
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LED lites and tires

Two quick questions for the experts.
1. Can I just replace the two interior 12v lites inside my trailer with new LED 12v double pancake lites? Without adding any transformers or stuff.

2. Can I put 14" tires on my Uhaul without any modifications?

Any and all help is appreciated.
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Old 03-23-2012, 01:14 PM   #2
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I don't see why you can't change the lights to LEDs. The only issue might be the extra holes underneath. On mine, there was evidently a different light there originally under the fluorescent, so it has some larger holes that the current light hides.

I see two potential issues with 14" tires. The wheel well is not extra large, so you might have inadequate clearance, especially in front of the tire.

Second, and a bigger issue is the wheel offset. If you still have the original UHaul wheels, they have a 1.75" offset to the outboard side. If you find some wheels with a 4.75" bolt circle and they have the more standard zero offset, the tire will rub on the inner lip of the wheel well. If you have replaced the axle and / or wheels, this may not be a concern.
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Old 03-23-2012, 04:36 PM   #3
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I haven't used any LED lights, but Tom is exactly right on the tire & wheel issue. Uhaul wheels are unique in the offset, and the bolt pattern is somewhat uncommon. From what I've read here, LED's are the way to go. Bob
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Old 03-23-2012, 05:34 PM   #4
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My VT came with 14' wheels and car tires, I still have access to the rims and tires and will see if I can get some info off the rim. I swapped them for 13" rims I ordered from U haul with new Trailer Tires from my Tire guy I have been dealing with for 30 years. LED lights are no problem, I Cut out a small rectangular piece of Thin oak plywood larger than the 4 mounting holes for the fluorescent lights finished the plywood with minwax seal and stain and mounted 2 large LEDs to each and screwed the plywood into the existing nylon inserts. Biggest issue is crimping the small wires from the LEDs together to make the circuit.
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Old 03-23-2012, 08:33 PM   #5
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Would love to see your pics Michael!
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Old 03-24-2012, 09:09 AM   #6
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picts.

Here are a couple that I took this morning. I am in the process of tagging all the wires and creating a wiring diagram.

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My thanks to Tom, Bob, Michael, and Mike. I will order the new LED lites and really don't need tires yet, but I sure learned something about the angles-- that was a surprise. I do have the original UHaul axle, hubs (have an extra), and wheels, even the moon hub caps that say UHaul.
Has anyone heard from the guy that was going to make tail light lenses?
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..........Has anyone heard from the guy that was going to make tail light lenses?
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He seems to be MIA. I did check into the process and if you don't want to get too fancy, you can probably do it yourself.


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Pulled the old VT wheels out of storage today and they are 15" rims with car tires on them. P205-60-R15 probably to keep the over all diameter in line with the wheel well. PO was a mechanic and ran a garage for 30 years so he probably figured the option out. Rims rated at 1453 # at 35 psi.These came off a VT so I don't know if a CT has the same wheel well dimensions , likely not as they were made in different factories and the VT needs more room for the brakes. have included picts for your viewing pleasure and the inevitable prolonging of the discussion
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These wheels appear to have a substantial offset - probably off a front wheel drive car??
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So Tom, when are you going to make tail light lenses and sell them? Seems to me that all red would be the best way to go. On the History Channel show "American Restoration", they made a lens for a motor scooter tail light, but I forget just how they did it. And in my opinion, some of their work should not be called a "restoration" as they change things from original sometimes and apparently without previously discussing it with the owner of the item. And would you want that dopey kid working on your stuff? OK enough of my rant on that, I do watch the show but just to see the cool old stuff. Bob
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So Tom, when are you going to make tail light lenses and sell them? Seems to me that all red would be the best way to go. ......... Bob
Too much like work...I'm a retired guy.
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I agree with the front wheel drive comment, look a lot like K car rims except K cars only had 4 lugs.I suspect that if I decide to take the tire off the rim more info would be exposed on the inside such as mfg. and date but I "lost" all my tire tools years ago when tires actually had tubes in them. Don't miss that at all.
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I agree with the front wheel drive comment, look a lot like K car rims except K cars only had 4 lugs.I suspect that if I decide to take the tire off the rim more info would be exposed on the inside such as mfg. and date but I "lost" all my tire tools years ago when tires actually had tubes in them. Don't miss that at all.
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Seems to be mostly GM:

Wheel Bolt Pattern Cross Reference Database and Conversion Guide: 5*X*4.75

Maybe Riviera 79 - 85
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