Leveling a 13? - Fiberglass RV
Journey with Confidence RV GPS App RV Trip Planner RV LIFE Campground Reviews RV Maintenance Take a Speed Test Free 7 Day Trial ×


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 05-19-2012, 07:53 PM   #1
Member
 
Name: Gary
Trailer: Scamp 13
Massachusetts
Posts: 43
Registry
Leveling a 13?

O my first weekend with my Scamp, and I am not in a very level site. Makes cooking moreover an act fit for the old Ed Sullivan show. How does one level these small campers. Front to back is done with the tongue jack, but what do you use to level side to side? I tried lifting one side by prying the rear bumper and lowering the built in leveler, but I could only lift it a couple of inches.
Garycamper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-2012, 08:06 PM   #2
Senior Member
 
floyd's Avatar
 
Trailer: 2004 13 ft Scamp Custom Deluxe
Posts: 8,520
Registry
Quote:
Originally Posted by Garycamper View Post
O my first weekend with my Scamp, and I am not in a very level site. Makes cooking moreover an act fit for the old Ed Sullivan show. How does one level these small campers. Front to back is done with the tongue jack, but what do you use to level side to side? I tried lifting one side by prying the rear bumper and lowering the built in leveler, but I could only lift it a couple of inches.
We always start our leveling process with lego levelers on the low side. Most sites require no more than two. Just stack them as needed and back-up onto them.

BAL also makes a wheel leveler for small trailers, It works well but is a bit bulky
Attached Images
    
floyd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-2012, 08:08 PM   #3
Senior Member
 
Byron Kinnaman's Avatar
 
Trailer: Scamp
Posts: 7,056
Registry
I use one of these.
Process of leveling....
Find the spot you want, place the trailer where you want it. (I have bubble levels mounting on the front and side with double sticky tape. I made sure the trailer was level using a center level on the bottom of fridge before installing the outside levels.)

I put the above BAL wheel leveler under the low side wheel. Jack it up to level. You could use boards, leveling "legos", etc. I find the BAL the easiest to use.
Then I unhook the tow and move it out of the way.
Lower the tongue jack so the front of the trailer is about 1/2 bubble low.
Deploy the rear stabilizers making sure the foot of each is in contact with ground.
Then using the tongue jack bring the front to level.
This places a bit of pressure on the stabilizers to keep the trailer from rocking.

Light the fridge and pull out the lawn chair. Time to enjoy a cool beverage.
__________________
Byron & Anne enjoying the everyday Saturday thing.
Byron Kinnaman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-2012, 08:40 PM   #4
Member
 
Name: Gary
Trailer: Scamp 13
Massachusetts
Posts: 43
Registry
Quote:
Originally Posted by floyd
We always start our leveling process with lego levelers on the low side. Most sites require no more than two. Just stack them as needed and back-up onto them.

BAL also makes a wheel leveler for small trailers, It works well but is a bit bulky
Ha! You assume I can back up. I have yet to master that skill. LOL
Garycamper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-2012, 09:12 PM   #5
Senior Member
 
floyd's Avatar
 
Trailer: 2004 13 ft Scamp Custom Deluxe
Posts: 8,520
Registry
Quote:
Originally Posted by Garycamper View Post
Ha! You assume I can back up. I have yet to master that skill. LOL
I know what ya mean! but in this case you "cheat" by jamming the blocks up behind the wheel when you are about where you want to end up.
floyd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-2012, 09:23 PM   #6
Senior Member
 
Cathi's Avatar
 
Name: Cathy
Trailer: Escape 19' sold, 21' August 2015
POBox 1267, Denison, Texas
Posts: 807
Hi, Gary. We have those blocks that Floyd has, and you need more blocks than you think when you see their directions! But they are lighter and easier to clean than wood.
Cathi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-2012, 10:54 PM   #7
Senior Member
 
LukeP's Avatar
 
Trailer: 1972 13 ft Boler American
Posts: 262
Registry
there's an old thread on here where somebody asked about the best 'value' people felt they'd spend their money on, for accessories. multiple people mentioned the BAL tire leveler (Floyd attached a pic and Byron described his) was in their top couple choices of one of the best things they'd bought.

After reading this, I decided to buy one... leveling is now a 2 min task and as easy as Byron explained.
LukeP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2012, 06:20 AM   #8
Senior Member
 
Name: Steve
Trailer: 2018, 21ft escape— 2019 Ram 1500 Laramie
NW Wisconsin
Posts: 4,500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Byron Kinnaman View Post
I use one of these.
Process of leveling....
Find the spot you want, place the trailer where you want it. (I have bubble levels mounting on the front and side with double sticky tape. I made sure the trailer was level using a center level on the bottom of fridge before installing the outside levels.)

I put the above BAL wheel leveler under the low side wheel. Jack it up to level. You could use boards, leveling "legos", etc. I find the BAL the easiest to use.
Then I unhook the tow and move it out of the way.
Lower the tongue jack so the front of the trailer is about 1/2 bubble low.
Deploy the rear stabilizers making sure the foot of each is in contact with ground.
Then using the tongue jack bring the front to level.
This places a bit of pressure on the stabilizers to keep the trailer from rocking.

Light the fridge and pull out the lawn chair. Time to enjoy a cool beverage.
Use same leveler (BAL), same method , works well
steve dunham is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2012, 08:17 AM   #9
Senior Member
 
floyd's Avatar
 
Trailer: 2004 13 ft Scamp Custom Deluxe
Posts: 8,520
Registry
Quote:
Originally Posted by LukeP View Post
there's an old thread on here where somebody asked about the best 'value' people felt they'd spend their money on, for accessories. multiple people mentioned the BAL tire leveler (Floyd attached a pic and Byron described his) was in their top couple choices of one of the best things they'd bought.

After reading this, I decided to buy one... leveling is now a 2 min task and as easy as Byron explained.
I have BAL stabiliers, which I think was money well spent. I never have owned a BAL leveler.
Both are fine products, but I personally haven't found a use for the latter.
Attached Thumbnails
DSCF0004.JPG  
Attached Images
 
floyd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2012, 02:00 PM   #10
Senior Member
 
rabbit's Avatar
 
Name: Jack
Trailer: '98 BURRO 17WB
Delaware
Posts: 2,548
I prefer the BAL leveller. The only thing you need to know is which wheel is on the downslope side. Using the blocks probably requires a builder's level or skills in guesstimation which I don't care to acquire.

jack
rabbit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2012, 02:10 PM   #11
Senior Member
 
Name: Jesse
Trailer: 1984 Scamp 13'
Maryland
Posts: 815
I use the "Legos". They also have a an add-on set of wheel chocks that will integrate with the blocks. If it needs more fine thing side to side, I use the stabilizers to correct it. Here's a pic that shows the blocks and the chock being used at a campsite:

__________________
-Jesse
SOLD! - 1984 Scamp 13 in Maryland.
mcbrew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2012, 03:17 PM   #12
Senior Member
 
floyd's Avatar
 
Trailer: 2004 13 ft Scamp Custom Deluxe
Posts: 8,520
Registry
Quote:
Originally Posted by rabbit View Post
I prefer the BAL leveller. The only thing you need to know is which wheel is on the downslope side. Using the blocks probably requires a builder's level or skills in guesstimation which I don't care to acquire.

jack
C'mon, JACK, if that cute little baby can do it... you can.
floyd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2012, 04:01 PM   #13
Junior Member
 
Name: Bill
Trailer: Scamp 16
Washington
Posts: 23
How do you deploy the stabilizers on a Scamp? There are a series of holes about 1/2" diameter and it looks like you could use some kind of tool to lever the inner leg down but I don't think my Scamp (bought used) came with this tool. I was thinking of just using a piece of 1/2" steel bar but I don't know what it would lever against. Or does everyone just do what I'm doing, which is push them down by hand and then crank up the tongue?
Thanks.
Bill
wjquigs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2012, 04:17 PM   #14
Senior Member
 
floyd's Avatar
 
Trailer: 2004 13 ft Scamp Custom Deluxe
Posts: 8,520
Registry
Quote:
Originally Posted by wjquigs View Post
How do you deploy the stabilizers on a Scamp? There are a series of holes about 1/2" diameter and it looks like you could use some kind of tool to lever the inner leg down but I don't think my Scamp (bought used) came with this tool. I was thinking of just using a piece of 1/2" steel bar but I don't know what it would lever against. Or does everyone just do what I'm doing, which is push them down by hand and then crank up the tongue?
Thanks.
Bill
Mild steel is really not the best choice, go buy a piece of drill rod,cut it in half, slip a piece of heater hose tightly over one end of each piece for a grip and you have two new handles which won't bend, for the price of a drill rod.
As for how they work...Look here...

http://www.scamptrailers.com/Portals...osingASpot.swf


More videos from Scamp...

Scamp Trailers - Owners Manuals
floyd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2012, 06:23 PM   #15
Senior Member
 
rabbit's Avatar
 
Name: Jack
Trailer: '98 BURRO 17WB
Delaware
Posts: 2,548
You are correct, Floyd, I am a babe in the woods (and non-woodsy terrain also) when it comes to leveling trailers. The Scamp setup video was very revealing in that I had no idea you could actually jack the stabilizers into solid contact with ground, 2X, other. I wondered about the rusty round bar in one of the lockers. I couldn't find it but the handle of a pair of pump pliers did as well. Apparently, the Burro shares it's stabilizer pattern with the Scamp. (Your BAL stabiliizers obviously have a different modus operandi). Could there be another Scamp owner aboard who did not know this? How bout it, Byron?

jack
rabbit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2012, 10:20 PM   #16
Senior Member
 
Carol H's Avatar
 
Trailer: 92 16 ft Scamp
Posts: 11,756
Registry
I use the plastic blocks to level - if I dont need them under the tires they come in very handy to use under the back jacks which often do not make it to the ground on my Scamp.
Carol H is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2012, 10:40 PM   #17
Junior Member
 
Name: Bill
Trailer: Scamp 16
Washington
Posts: 23
Thanks, Floyd. That makes sense, and the videos are great.
Bill
wjquigs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2012, 10:53 PM   #18
Senior Member
 
Roy in TO's Avatar
 
Trailer: 1972 Boler American and 1979 Trillium 4500
Posts: 5,141
Quote:
Originally Posted by wjquigs View Post
I was thinking of just using a piece of 1/2" steel bar but I don't know what it would lever against.
Follow Floyd's suggestions.
Find a tire iron from a local wreckers that fits your trailer tires and use the other end for your stabilizer jacks.
Roy in TO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2012, 08:46 AM   #19
Senior Member
 
floyd's Avatar
 
Trailer: 2004 13 ft Scamp Custom Deluxe
Posts: 8,520
Registry
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roy in TO View Post
Follow Floyd's suggestions.
Find a tire iron from a local wreckers that fits your trailer tires and use the other end for your stabilizer jacks.
Drill rod comes in 3ft pieces at your local hardware store and can be bought in the right diameter for a couple of bucks. It is hard enough that it won't bend when used on the jacks and it fits well enough to prevent damage to the jacks, like bending or ovaling the holes.
The double use is an attractive idea,if you find the right one, but straight jack handles are getting more rare and most are too large and some are too soft.
While many things can get the job done, the drill rod/heater hose combo makes a nice handle, easy to find and inexpensive. Also if you taper the edge of the tip on the buisiness end of the rod it will fit better and not scratch.
floyd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2012, 09:13 AM   #20
Senior Member
 
Name: Steve
Trailer: 2018, 21ft escape— 2019 Ram 1500 Laramie
NW Wisconsin
Posts: 4,500
Scamp Stabilizer Bar

Quote:
Originally Posted by wjquigs View Post
How do you deploy the stabilizers on a Scamp? There are a series of holes about 1/2" diameter and it looks like you could use some kind of tool to lever the inner leg down but I don't think my Scamp (bought used) came with this tool. I was thinking of just using a piece of 1/2" steel bar but I don't know what it would lever against. Or does everyone just do what I'm doing, which is push them down by hand and then crank up the tongue?
Thanks.
Bill
Scamp sells the 1/2" rod for stabilizer Cost about $2.00 I just bought a spare rod this spring from Scamp
steve dunham is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Leveling the Unit georgia g Problem Solving | Owners Helping Owners 21 06-10-2011 07:08 PM
leveling the frig Bud Kennedy General Chat 12 04-08-2010 09:17 AM
Floor leveling Mac B Problem Solving | Owners Helping Owners 13 09-19-2009 02:26 AM
Leveling a trialer Legacy Posts Problem Solving | Owners Helping Owners 9 06-12-2003 10:21 PM
Leveling your trailer Legacy Posts Care and Feeding of Molded Fiberglass Trailers 23 11-10-2002 06:17 PM

» Upcoming Events
No events scheduled in
the next 465 days.
» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:39 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.