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02-13-2014, 08:36 AM
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Junior Member
Name: Pete
Trailer: In the market
Montana
Posts: 4
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Limited Counter space
I am considering a 13-17ft fiberglass camper but can see problems with the limited counter space. With the sink and stove on the same side with no space to work looks like this could be a jumbled mess when cooking. Kinda reminds me of being in my 8x12 wall tent. Does anyone else feel this is a problem? I am thinking of a floor plan with sleeping on one end, eating on the other end and a work area in the middle would be the best if one would forego the bathroom.
Comments?
Pete
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02-13-2014, 09:04 AM
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Senior Member
Name: bob
Trailer: 1996 Casita 17 Spirit Deluxe; 1946 Modernistic teardrop
New York
Posts: 5,416
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I made counter extensions in our 13' Uhaul. However we do not cook inside or wash dishes there and seldom eat inside. We cook under an easy-up type shelter, and eat in our 12 X 12 enclosed screen room.
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02-13-2014, 09:23 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Diane
Trailer: Casita, previously u-haul ct13
Virginia
Posts: 1,020
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I prefer an outside kitchen set up as well & eat outside also. My kitchen is set up under the awning then I put an outside shelter over the table. This keeps leaves and rain off the table. The set up also keeps dreaded moisture, grease and smells out of the camper. The shelters or a tarp are great to socialize under even in the rain and bad weather. Basically only use the camper to sleep in. Advantages of camper for me over a tent: Comfort, warmth, your stuff can be prepacked in the camper. You can pull a small FG camper with alsmost anything and go almost anywhere. Lightweight.
Baths; almost all campgrounds have bathrooms and many have nice hot showers.
Everyone is different, so find what suites you and your needs best and have fun doing it.
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02-13-2014, 09:25 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17 ft
Posts: 418
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Our 95 Scamp 16 side bath had great counter space (layout 4) - sink and counter on the curb side and stove and counter with small fridge underneath on the street side, rear dinette made into a full time bed and bunk bed/couch in the front.
I never got around to converting the front area to a 2 person dinette, but I think Scamp makes a floor plan like that. When we ate inside we set up a folding table in front of the couch.
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Paul & Norma
2005 Hunter Fat Shadow, 1995 Scamp 16, 2009 Escape 17B, 2013 Escape 21
2022 Coachmen Nova 20C
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02-13-2014, 10:15 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 92 16 ft Scamp
Posts: 11,756
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I am with Paul, I love the extra counter space in my Scamp 16' Standard side bath. Its often the first thing people notice when they tour the trailer as well..... also the one reason I haven't been in a really big hurry to change trailers to a slightly bigger trailer as the lack of counter space on the brands I am interested in is a bit of a worry as I really like having the extra surface space as I do use the trailers kitchen - especially when on long road trips and only doing 1 night fast stop overs. The counter extensions do help but not thrilled with them as I see they are often set up so they hang out into a walk way or over the rear bed. Have wished for awhile now that Scamp would make the side bath with a small front dinette but suspect they believe that the seating on the bathroom side would be restrictive and need to push the trailer another 1' in length to make it work really well.
If your willing to forgo the bathroom - Escape does a 15' Plan B that has pretty decent counter space in it with a rear bed and front dinette. There was a Escape 15' for sale here last year that was custom plan built with kitchen at the very front in place of the dinette but instead of the kitchen wrapping around for more counter space they had a large storage closet - Don't know until you ask if Escape would entertain doing a layout without the storage closet - creating a more wrapped around front kitchen - I suspect it may be needed for the trailers structural support - but that could be very wrong, so only way to find out is to ask them directly.
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02-13-2014, 10:24 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Casita
Posts: 145
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counter space
Everyone knows about the high-rise faucet. That combined with a cake cooling rack helps on counter space. The sink can still be used. The "feet" on the rack keep it in place. And it offers a surprising amount of room to place pots (hot or cold) & pans.
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02-13-2014, 11:39 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Norm and Ginny
Trailer: Scamp 16
Florida
Posts: 7,517
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We're also fans of the Scamp 16 with sink on one side and stove on the other. Really more than enough counter space and plenty of storage space. Beyond the counter space it adds an openness to the trailer.
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2014 Honda Odyssey
1991 Scamp 16
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02-13-2014, 11:53 AM
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Commercial Member
Name: Ian
Trailer: 1974 Boler 1300 - 2014 Escape 19'
Alberta
Posts: 1,380
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Hi Pete
Your comments are similar to those I made after we bought or 13' Boler, we are like many other who have mentioned that they do most of their cooking outside but I still wanted the flexibility of a larger kitchen, my solution was a major renovation ... not the answer many want to hear or undertake.
Recently we added a 17' Casita which had the same small counter and I had no intention of modifying, we learned to adjust our food prep and cooking, using the outside or side dinette as useful space.
Touring the Scamp 16" we did appreciate the factory approach which does offer very nice counter/kitchen space.
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02-13-2014, 12:40 PM
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Member
Name: Lorelei
Trailer: uhaul
Florida
Posts: 52
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Amazon has a hinged counter extension that is reasonable and installs in minutes.
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02-13-2014, 12:49 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Francesca Knowles
Trailer: '78 Trillium 4500
Jefferson County, Washington State, U.S.A.
Posts: 4,669
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I do all my cooking inside except of course for grilling. Since I rarely have anything as exotic as hookups and must use water judiciously, I rarely use the sink for its intended purpose. I keep it covered most of the time with the panel that came with it from the factory that effectively converts that whole space to counter. I also keep a cutting board that I can sit on the stove for simple prep not involving cooking.
It's been my experience that it's all the doo-dads/ingredients that clutter up the work space, and a handy place to set them would go a long way towards opening space up.
To that end, an innovation I think I'll do this year will be to put a shelf eight inches deep or so on the wall behind the countertop. Its exclusive purpose will be to provide a place to set things while doing prep. (In order to discipline myself not to store things there, it will have no retaining "travel" rim. One or two episodes of contents-on-the-floor ought to do the trick, eh? )
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02-13-2014, 01:03 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Sergey
Trailer: 2014 Scamp 16 layout 4, 2018 Winnebago Revel 4x4
SW Florida
Posts: 852
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Search for "over the sink cutting board" on Amazon. They are great counter space savers.
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02-13-2014, 01:34 PM
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Junior Member
Name: Elisabeth
Trailer: 1977 Trillium 1300
Texas
Posts: 21
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Thanks for the cake rack over the sink tip. I'm going to try that.
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02-13-2014, 03:12 PM
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#14
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Junior Member
Name: Pete
Trailer: In the market
Montana
Posts: 4
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Thanks everyone for your good comments. I had forgotten about Scamps 2-sided work area. That sounds like the best for me. I plan to camp a lot in the fall in Montana when the weather may not be too inviting for outside dining. Plus it gets dark pretty early so I better plan to cook inside.
Glad to hear other people had similar concerns.
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02-13-2014, 03:47 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Casita
Posts: 145
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Elisabeth Yeah, the cake rack does work well. Plus, unlike the sink cover/cutting board technique the sink is still usable with the cake rack.
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