Location of Buddy Heater - Fiberglass RV


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 02-16-2016, 12:53 PM   #1
Junior Member
 
Name: Dean
Trailer: Scamp
Colorado
Posts: 15
Location of Buddy Heater

I just got a buddy heater for my 13' scamp. Anyone have suggestions on where to place the heater. I was thinking about putting it under the couch and pulling it out of the cabinet when in use. I also have a dog so that is not the best plan unless he sits on the couch. Anyone have thoughts about where to put this thing? I was thinking about mounting it on the closet door, but will need to run propane to the other side of the camper.
__________________

__________________
dron is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2016, 02:51 PM   #2
Senior Member
 
Gilles's Avatar
 
Name: Gilles
Trailer: Bigfoot 15B17G, 1986.
Quebec
Posts: 596
Registry
I heard that this kind of system creates moisture beacoup in our small caravan of fiberglass.

To keep the interior space is more expensive, but one of the models can be installed under the trailer:
Propex: Propex North America • Propex Heatsource USA and Canada
__________________

__________________
Gilles
Bigfoot 15B17G.
Towed with Dodge Journey 2012, 3.6 L., 6 speeds.
Gilles is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2016, 03:05 PM   #3
Senior Member
 
Gilles's Avatar
 
Name: Gilles
Trailer: Bigfoot 15B17G, 1986.
Quebec
Posts: 596
Registry
You can see a foreign installation on this link:

Lil Snoozy Propane Furnace Installation
__________________
Gilles
Bigfoot 15B17G.
Towed with Dodge Journey 2012, 3.6 L., 6 speeds.
Gilles is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2016, 03:30 PM   #4
Junior Member
 
Name: Dean
Trailer: Scamp
Colorado
Posts: 15
Thanks. Looks like a great option. A rather expensive unit based on the worth of the camper. I used the buddy this weekend and didn't have condensation issues. I assed a fan to the vent to suck out condensation. Seemed to work for this trip. I'm sure it will be an issue at some point.
__________________
dron is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-17-2016, 10:52 AM   #5
Member
 
Name: Robert
Trailer: Shopping
North Carolina
Posts: 32
As Gilles has pointed out, open combustion of propane produces lots of carbon dioxide and water vapor!! I would assume you read all the warnings on that device but if not you should. Absolutely not the best choice for confined space heating I don't care what anyone else says. More than likely the product instructions/warnings state that the unit should be used in well ventilated space.
__________________
rdcastle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-17-2016, 11:36 AM   #6
Senior Member
 
charlsara's Avatar
 
Name: Charlie
Trailer: 2014 Lil Snoozy
North Carolina
Posts: 446
Registry
We have the Lil Buddy. I keep it in my storage and use it when we don't have electric. It runs off the small attached bottles. I leave a window cracked when it is on and we don't leave it on when we sleep. It works well and I haven't noticed any condensation.
__________________
charlsara is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-17-2016, 12:37 PM   #7
Senior Member
 
Ellpea in CA's Avatar
 
Name: Ellpea
Trailer: Bigfoot
California
Posts: 870
Registry
We just discovered on our 2-day outing that our furnace has an issue, and I was really wishing we had a back-up heat source. Is there any resource ANYWHERE that gives info on how much ventilation is needed per BTU output? Any guide at all?
__________________
Ellpea in CA
1988 13.5' Lil Bigfoot
2002 Volvo V70 (turbocharged)
5 cylinders, 5 speed auto transmission
Ellpea in CA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-17-2016, 03:01 PM   #8
Senior Member
 
Gilles's Avatar
 
Name: Gilles
Trailer: Bigfoot 15B17G, 1986.
Quebec
Posts: 596
Registry
The best guide is to cut-off Buddy-Heater before sleep.

If You read the description for this system :
- Automatic low oxygen shut-off system (ODS)
( Big Buddy Portable Heater )

You can buy an oxygene detector like this :
Oxygen Detector (O2) CTX 300 | Oldham

It's the choice of each one, the technology exist.

The Buddy-Heater is
State Restriction:
MA
Country Restriction:
CANADA

Likely that other members will have a different story, for now this is mine.
__________________
Gilles
Bigfoot 15B17G.
Towed with Dodge Journey 2012, 3.6 L., 6 speeds.
Gilles is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-17-2016, 03:13 PM   #9
Senior Member
 
Carl V's Avatar
 
Name: Carl
Trailer: 1981 Trillium 5500
Quebec
Posts: 480
Registry
Anyone interested in non-vented heater safety vs CO poisoning should take 10 minutes and read these two very interesting documents, published by the US Consumer Product Safety Commission:
https://www.cpsc.gov/PageFiles/103975/CO02.pdf
https://www.cpsc.gov/PageFiles/103972/CO03.pdf

They explain why ODS-equipped heaters like the Mr. Heaters are in a different league in regard of safety.
__________________
Carl V is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-17-2016, 03:16 PM   #10
Senior Member
 
Timber Wolf's Avatar
 
Name: Tim
Trailer: '88 Scamp 16, layout 4
North Florida
Posts: 1,440
I have issues with FIRE (of any kind) in a trailer or any enclosed space. I am not going to argue with anybody about it. That said, I intend to someday install a Proper heater in (or under) my Scamp. In the meantime I also intend to buy a Little Buddy heater for the odd occasion I need heat boondocking. I will not use it while sleeping and will crack a window. If that does not work I will go home or to a Motel.
__________________
Timber Wolf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2016, 04:11 PM   #11
Senior Member
 
Ellpea in CA's Avatar
 
Name: Ellpea
Trailer: Bigfoot
California
Posts: 870
Registry
Thanks for the links, will read up on this. We sleep with the windows and vent cracked even if there's no heat running! But I wonder, when I'm cooking with two burners on the stove going, if the openings I have are sufficient. For instance, I don't have a fan over the stove, just a hood with a little metal louvered door at the back. Is THAT enough to keep us safe while I'm cooking?

And yes, I would totally use a LB heater in the morning and in the evening if I were having trouble with my furnace. Cooking warms us up admirably, but not from the waist down.

We are working now on getting CM and propane alarms. BTW, Costco now has a little drum-style smoke detector, with a battery that is supposed to be good for ten years. There are two in the package, which runs about $30. They're about the size of a walnut or a plum.
__________________
Ellpea in CA
1988 13.5' Lil Bigfoot
2002 Volvo V70 (turbocharged)
5 cylinders, 5 speed auto transmission
Ellpea in CA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2016, 05:02 PM   #12
Senior Member
 
Carl V's Avatar
 
Name: Carl
Trailer: 1981 Trillium 5500
Quebec
Posts: 480
Registry
Quote:
Originally Posted by dron View Post
Anyone have suggestions on where to place the heater.
My experience with the Mr Heater in our popup is that you have to keep a free distance of about 2ft in front of the heater. Anything closer to that will get VERY hot, enough to melt plastics trims or damage finishes.

Also, I found that the floor just in front of the heater also gets quite warm. I wasn't concerned about fire, but maybe discoloration of the flooring over time. Maybe I worry for nothing, but just in case I use a piece of Reflectix to protect the floor (aluminium-coated bubble wrap that you can get at your local store in rolls). I had a 24in X 24in leftover piece laying around. I just put it under and in front of the heater, and the Reflectix stays completely cold (reflects almost all the heat upwards) and the floor under it stays cold as well.

If you have a dog (or young kids) makes sure they can't touch the heater, as the front grille gets extremely hot.

Mr Heaters are very safe when used with proper ventilation, I've used mine a lot. Although they burn very cleanly, I always use it with a CO detector. My detector is the type that has a display that shows the CO concentration in ppm. I never saw anything but 000 (zero) on that display.
__________________
Carl V is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2016, 06:07 PM   #13
Senior Member
 
Name: Lyle
Trailer: Scamp 13
None
Posts: 525
Interesting read, Carl. Thanks for posting.

I'll still keep a window or two open while in use, and I have a new CO detector also. The Mr. Heater with the Oxygen sensor works well and the moisture is taken care of with adequate ventilation.

Good sleeping bag is adequate for overnight.
__________________

__________________
LyleB is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Buddy Heater Pat C General Chat 25 03-20-2014 05:04 PM
Anyone using a Mr. Buddy Heater al gilliland Problem Solving | Owners Helping Owners 4 02-26-2008 06:50 PM
Anybody Here Use a Mr Heater Portable Buddy? Buck62 Modifications, Alterations and Updates 17 01-18-2007 06:17 PM
Mr. Heater Buddy Portable Propane Heater Legacy Posts Problem Solving | Owners Helping Owners 16 08-03-2003 01:01 PM
Mr Buddy Propane Heater Legacy Posts Modifications, Alterations and Updates 12 02-08-2003 07:27 AM

» Upcoming Events
No events scheduled in
the next 465 days.
» Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by


Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:20 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.