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Old 05-07-2016, 01:43 PM   #15
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For long stays in one place with a sewer hookup I might agree, but in eight years of camping I've yet to stay on one site for a full week.
And most places I camp do not have a sewer hookup so my dumps are at a dump site, far too inconvenient with separate hookups several feet apart.
Like a lot of things, it depends on your camping style.

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Having an SOB trailer with a single dump connection as well as not often camping at places that have a dump station right at the camping spot, I understand where you are coming from but I personally do not find having the two connection points on the Scamp to be overly inconvenient.

If you park the Scamp at the waste station correctly you hook the hose to the black tank first and dump then move the hose over a few feet to the grey tank connection - perhaps about 20 to 30 seconds of extra time needed to dump vs doing so with a trailer with a single combo outlet.
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Old 05-07-2016, 01:50 PM   #16
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The problem with sewer drains (blackwater) modifications is the basic "law" of 1/4 inch pitch (slope) for 1 foot of horizontal run "MUST" be followed to function properly. When leveling the RV for long term locations this must be considered for the blackwater to drain properly and not result in a possible obstruction. The reasoning behind all this is to assure the liquid in the system doesn't run faster than the solids, leaving the solids to form a possible obstruction. Any modification to the blackwater system must plan these calculations into the design. Because the argument with gravity will always show that gravity wins everytime.
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Old 05-07-2016, 03:24 PM   #17
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The problem with sewer drains (blackwater) modifications is the basic "law" of 1/4 inch pitch (slope) for 1 foot of horizontal run "MUST" be followed to function properly. When leveling the RV for long term locations this must be considered for the blackwater to drain properly and not result in a possible obstruction. The reasoning behind all this is to assure the liquid in the system doesn't run faster than the solids, leaving the solids to form a possible obstruction. Any modification to the blackwater system must plan these calculations into the design. Because the argument with gravity will always show that gravity wins everytime.
You set these issues with the "SewerSolution".
Amazon.com: Sewer Solution: Sports & Outdoors

This is what I currently use and I am satisfied.
We can leave the valve open for gray water and when it is time to empty the black water, nothing blocks and it's clean.

I have a set of "Slinky" I bought at the same time as the trailer, which I never used, it is in its tube in the trailer, I do follow in case ...

Before purchasing our Bigfoot with toilet, a member of the Quebec Bolerama had spoken of the benefits of "SewerSolution" and I have no regrets, especially when I see my camping neighbors walking around with their 3-inch pipe dripping everywhere.
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Old 05-07-2016, 04:03 PM   #18
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The way you can have a constantly draining black water tank is by using a macerating toilet. That basically gets rid of the solids piling up and creating clogs problem. It is also best done with a toilet that flushes with the same volume of water as a household toilet for the poop flushes.

Where there is a will there is a way but in this case unfortunately it does involve a new plumbing setup and extra expense.

At least now you know it can be done and how to do it.

It can be plumbed to a remote tank through a garden hose line. It also does not have to be right on top of a waste tank which is an advantage for those who want to put in a a bathroom but never had one installed. Or those who want to remodel and move the location of the toilet but not the tank.
http://www.dometic.com/USA/New-Produ...40-rv-toilets/
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Old 05-07-2016, 07:41 PM   #19
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Is that still true on new ones? That would be a major deterrent to me. Far too inconvenient.
So far I've modified three older FG trailers to a shared black/grey outlet port. I sure wouldn't expect to need that mod on a new one. And with the two outlets on opposite sides of the axle it might be a major challenge.
Glad you mentioned that Donna. I hadn't noticed that before. I get a lot of requests for advice on FG trailers and that's a feature I should include.

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Old 05-07-2016, 11:45 PM   #20
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Our 16' Scamp has the two outlet system (same as the newer ones) and I think that is a decent solution based on the low height of our outlets. I know Casitas have both outlets drain into one, but the reduced slope inherent with that design makes it seem like it takes forever for Casitas to dump at the dump station.
Whenever we are at a full hookup site for several days we only have to move our hose from the grey to the black outlet once every few days. We try to have our grey tank fairly full too, so we can flush the hose out with grey water after draining the black tank.
We find that at dump stations, we only need to pull up with our Scamp tire abeam the dump port and the hose reaches from either outlet. Both tanks drain quickly and the switchover takes less than 30 seconds.
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Old 05-08-2016, 09:42 AM   #21
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Since yesterday I have learned a few things about Scamps that I did not know. I have an '84 Scamp 13 (along with the 2001 Casita 17SD) but it is a 'bare bones' rig with no bath or holding tanks of any kind. The Casita on the other hand has a front bath with shower, & both holding tanks. We bought it used but well cared for, & I immediately made appointment with Larry Gamble of Little House Customs in Texas to do their 'mods' to the gray water tank, along with a mod to the shower drain so I didn't need to 'pull a switch' for it to drain properly (they installed a Hepvo drain in place of the 'P' trap & lever switch). The addition of a vent tube & re-work of the gray water drain now allows the tank to drain completely, & very fast. Anyone behind me at the 'dump station' won't have to wait long (weeelll, no longer than for most other 76yr olds ). My black/grey drain sits low enough that I'd hesitate to take the Casita on a really rough road but we don't do that anyway. Like Walt I'd install a 'hi-lift' axle & 15" wheels/tires if I were going to frequent rough country. We've towed the Casita several thousand miles, over varied roads/terrain, through national forests, BLM land, & several Corps of Engineers primitive areas, with no problems yet from the 'low hanging' plumbing. At our ages we're pretty careful with our 'stuff' so I don't expect any problems.

Also like Walt, the two separate drain connections on the Scamp 16 would most definitely be a deterrant to purchase for me. Probably, a few (maybe more'n a few ) years ago it wouldn't have bothered me; I'd probably have considered it just something to live with. Having now experienced trailers with more convenient arrangements, I'd be loath to 'take it on'.

I've no problem with the way Scamp's system is done, it's just not for me at this stage of my life. When you get on life's 'downhill run' you just kinda look at things differently... I ain't dead yet & with any kind of luck, I expect to be around for a while but we like things as easy/convenient as possible!
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