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Old 01-30-2015, 11:35 AM   #15
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Red face Batteries, too

Tom Young returned to his load of trailers in St. Louis after spending the night in a motel on a delivery run and found all the batteries in the rigs gone.
My Dad and I went out to his company car for him to go to work and drop me off at school one morning and found the battery gone. This was from a 1957 Nash Rambler in the 1950's.
I bought a 3 foot length of chain I place around my battery with a padlock and promptly lost the key. I was surprised how easy it was for the neighbor to grind off the padlock.
Like stated earlier, locks only keep 'honest people' honest.

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Old 01-30-2015, 11:57 AM   #16
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Propane Transport & Storage

We have a Propane fill station at our Hardware Store, and here's some info about propane that we've been trained to tell our customers:

Even with the new, required OPD valves , which limit the fill to 80%, there is still a relief valve on every tank. So, a full tank could still release propane, especially if it's left in a car (or camper) on a hot day.

Always carry and store consumer type (20,30, 40lb) propane tanks upright. Another relief valve issue. Tanks on their side will put more pressure on that valve and sometimes release propane.

Per DOT reg's , up to 90lbs, or about 21 gallons, (4-20lb tanks, 3-30's, or 2-40's) can be transported inside your vehicle.

So, back to the theft issue. Empty tanks could be stored with the valve closed, inside the trailer at the storage facility.

A good idea might be to store the tanks at home, outside in the yard, or next to the house or garage, or in a vented storage building, or open shed. I use a vented plastic "deck box" to store several 20lb. grille tanks near my house.

Propane sinks, so make sure any storage "cover" or building is vented also at the bottom as well as at top for air circulation.

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Old 01-30-2015, 12:49 PM   #17
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My Dad and I went out to his company car for him to go to work and drop me off at school one morning and found the battery gone. This was from a 1957 Nash Rambler in the 1950's.
The above reminded me of when I was a child and someone helped themselves to the engine of the next door neighbours new car parked in his carport in the middle of a city one night. No one heard or saw a thing.

A friend lost their motorhome out of a secure facility with card locks, lots of camera's & lights. It was never seen again.

If someone wants to take something it doesnt matter how you secure it, they will try. Best you can do is slow them down.

A chain through the bottom or collar holes of a propane tank and looped around the trailers frame is all I would bother with if I had to leave my trailer parked in any storage facility.
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Old 01-30-2015, 12:57 PM   #18
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I worked for an auto insurance company and at a training presentation watched a team of mechanics completely disassemble a full sized automobile into man sized carry parts in less than 15 minutes. All that can be done is to slow down or discourage theft of any kind.
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Old 01-30-2015, 01:22 PM   #19
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"Does not sound as if this trailer is stored in a very secure lot. You may want to check around for a secure storage facility that has procedures in place to protect you from these things."

Umm. Eight foot fence with razor wire at the top and card access only at night. In the daytime, there is a business associated with the lot, so the gate is open but lots of people around.

Here's the real problem with any RV lot. It makes the most sense that the tanks were taken by another RV'er. I know none of us want to think that's the case, but, there are just too many other, easier to steal tanks there. I am going to request a new site for my trailer. Mine is located in one of the back corners. Other, more accessible trailers have been left undisturbed. It really looks like location of my trailer contributed to the theft. They had to raise my CalMark cover, get into the plastic tank cover and unscrew everything. The trailer next to mine was far easier to steal from but more visible down the lane.

Storing the Casita is supposed to be convenient and my HOA won't allow campers next to my house. I don't want to have to remove the tanks except as a last resort.

I'm going to get new tanks, put a cable bike lock on them as well as a lock on the threaded rod retainer. I think I'll take the opportunity to upgrade my LP lines to that really nice stainless steel shrouded type at the same time. Then I am going to request a new spot to park my trailer in. If you aren't safe in the storage lot, I don't think you are any safer when you leave the trailer in the boonies either. It's not like it was when my grandparents went on a camping trip.
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Old 01-30-2015, 01:44 PM   #20
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As Alice might have said, "Toto, this isn't the Nebraska we used to live in".
(I know, they were in Kansas, but that didn't fit LOL)
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Old 01-30-2015, 01:47 PM   #21
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Hi Tim, Looks like you have a good solution.

The harder you make it for thieves to steal it the better. Thieves are almost always lazy, so they will look for unlocked tanks-easy prey, and ... thieves want to do their deeds where no one will see them. So a location out in the open, in this case, would be better. And some locks will help. Then they might steal tanks from an RV parked in the dark corner and/or without any locks on them.

Now, I've just got to get back to the positive thinking reality that most folks are good, decent & honest and not thieves.

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Old 01-30-2015, 01:56 PM   #22
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The irony of someone placing their RV in a secure area only to "Borrow" the trailer next doors propane tanks.

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Old 01-30-2015, 02:15 PM   #23
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While I keep my trailer at home, I know folks that remove the gas bottles, batteries, and the spare tire for storage in lots.
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Old 02-02-2015, 06:08 AM   #24
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cable locks

Master Lock 6-foot Quantum Cable Lock

It may be a bit of overkill but consider a cable lock for an ATV or motorcycle. I bought one years ago to secure my bike and the cable is about 1/2" thick. They'd need time and a power cutter to get through these things. Some include the lock and others your add your own.

Have you thought about taking the tank home and using it as a spare for the BBQ?

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