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08-01-2014, 11:07 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Casita Spirit Deluxe 2003 16 ft
Posts: 1,899
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Moving the picnic table
Once again, I’m letting the group in on my next money making, probably not patentable, project. My previous project involved mounting a fan blade to an alternator and in turn mounting it to the roof of my trailer to charge my trailer battery while in transit is sure to make me big money. Soon, I’m sure. No wind? No problem! Connect a motor to spin the blade.
Okay, moving on…
I’ve been contemplating a picnic table moving scheme that I can use to move a picnic table all by myself. I’m a solo camper. Some of those state park tables are heavy puppies and I can’t always drag them through the dirt. And there isn’t always help available when I arrive. Further complicated by the fact that I’m not supposed to lift much of anything and even one end of the table can be a challenge for me.
My current thinking involves a pair of side-crank (I like the side-crank form), swiveling, 1000 pound capacity (lightest, cheapest I can find) tongue jacks with a swivel wheel at the bottom of the jack tube. I would clamp each jack assembly to the table seat, in the middle of the length of the seat. Swing the jack vertical, jack up each side to raise the table in the center like a see-saw. Then from the end in the direction of desired travel tip the table level so that it’s high-sided on the swivel wheels and I tug away. Tugging is different from lifting with regards to my restrictions. The bigger the wheel I can fit on the bottom of the jack the better. However making the assembly too long below the tube swivel means I can’t get it under the seat.
I’m interested in the swivel jacks because they already have that side plate attached to the jack tube that I think I can modify with some sort of scheme to firmly clamp the jack to the table seat. Probably sandwich the seat between two plates and "pinch" them together to capture the seat bench. The seat-clamping scheme is the part that is most up-in-the-air (pun intended) aspect at the moment. (I need everyone camping today to measure from the ground to the bottom of the picnic table seat and send/post the measurement.)
About the cheapest swivel jack is ~$30 each (including the wheel) and weighs about 15 pounds. I’ll need two of them. I think I can finagle some sort of bench-seat-clamping thingy out of scrap plywood and bolt it to the side/swivel bracket. I’m thinking I can get out of this for under $100 and give Rube Goldberg a run for his money. Short of motorizing the whole thing (which is strangely appealing), any suggested refinements?
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08-01-2014, 11:17 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Trails West Campster 1970
Posts: 3,366
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no, but interested in what you come up with. I hate those big heavy tables, especially if they are in an inconvenient spot.
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08-01-2014, 11:31 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Casita Spirit Deluxe 2003 16 ft
Posts: 1,899
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Yikes! Here it is already. Mine needs to be lighter, cheaper. This one's over $500 and it's already patented. Bummer. One more search with slightly different terms and up it pops.
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08-01-2014, 12:02 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Steve
Trailer: 2012 Escape 19' /2010 Honda Pilot 4WD TV
Escondido, California
Posts: 143
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How about offering a few beers to your buff, younger camp neighbor to help move the table for you? Pretty lost cost option and very neighborly campground etiquette...but no patent.
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08-01-2014, 12:11 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Mike
Trailer: 2012 Escape 19
Oklahoma
Posts: 6,018
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This story may or may not be helpful, but I like telling stories. A year and a half ago we bought a round, steel tornado shelter to be fastened down in the garage. It's called a New Day shelter. http://www.newdaytornadoshelters.com/ The company owner brought it out in a pickup with a lift unit. The lift brought the shelter nearly upright and he guided it down to the concrete floor. Then he proceeded to move this half-ton steel object about 20 feet into the garage, all by himself.
How did he do it? The man got a crowbar under one edge and lifted it just a bit, then slipped a foot-long, small diameter pipe under the edge. A light push moved that side of the shelter. Then he did the same to the other side, and so on. In five minutes he had walked it about 20 feet.
Perhaps a couple of larger diameter pipes could be used to roll a picnic table over some semi-rough terrain. Not expensive, not very high tech, but also not very bulky to pack away.
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08-01-2014, 12:18 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Casita Spirit Deluxe 2003 16 ft
Posts: 1,899
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I run a dry campsite or I'd take that beer suggestion. Thick walled PVC might do the trick with tables like the one shown. Those with just legs on the ground might take some extra thought.
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08-01-2014, 12:19 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Class A Motorhome
Posts: 7,912
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Gotta say, as the table are very heavy, and the ground is often very soft, I don't think that you will be able to roll much without a lot of effort. Look at the size and width of the tires on the example you posted..
Maybe something simpler like a metal pinch bar that you can wedge under one end at a time and "Walk" it where you want it to be, might be a solution.
Maybe something like this: A Mattock Tool for Moving Heavy Machinery by Hand
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08-01-2014, 01:46 PM
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Senior Member
Name: bob
Trailer: 1996 Casita 17 Spirit Deluxe; 1946 Modernistic teardrop
New York
Posts: 5,413
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Ever try to lift a picnic table by the seat board and have it pull off the legs? There's another clinker for you. But I agree, some of the campsite tables are super heavy, and we usually like to put it in our screen room. I like the jack/dolly idea, very clever!
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08-01-2014, 01:56 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Morgyn
Trailer: Boler
Nova Scotia
Posts: 165
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Lol! I'm sitting at a provincial park picnic table right now! I just had to take a break from trying to move it 6 feet!
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08-01-2014, 02:18 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Tim
Trailer: '88 Scamp 16, layout 4
North Florida
Posts: 1,547
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Hummm, might be easier to just bring your own folding plastic table and chairs and forgo the whole pick-a-nick table moving thing. Or, as we did when we truck-camped, just put your quick-up 10X10 awning over wherever the table already is!
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08-01-2014, 04:03 PM
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Moderator
Name: RogerDat
Trailer: 2010 Scamp 16
Michigan
Posts: 3,744
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What about something like this?
Rack'em Trailer Dolly Rackem Hitch Accessories RA20
I could see something that had height adjustable support, with a single removable handle and two sets of wheels.
Adjust support to just under seat, press down on handle and it levers the wheels under the weight, lifting that side. Remove handle and position second set on other side but leave the handle in so you can steer.
Might need an arm or pin to "lock" the first set of wheels after the handle is removed so the wheels don't hit a snag and get pulled back out from under the load.
Might even be able to have a place for the hitch ball so it could still be used for moving trailers.
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08-01-2014, 05:01 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Escape 17 ft
Posts: 8,317
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If you're gonna carry something, it just makes sense to me that you carry a compact, folding picnic table. I set mine up where I want it and use the site provided table as a kitchen counter. Site table has BBQ, butanes stoves and "kitchen sink" on it.
Portable picnic table usually ends up under the awning, set for dinner.
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08-01-2014, 05:09 PM
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Commercial Member
Name: Charlie Y
Trailer: Escape 21 - Felicity
Oregon
Posts: 1,583
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Sled dog with harness..............and jerky treats
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08-01-2014, 08:25 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1988 16 ft Scamp Deluxe
Posts: 25,697
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hotfishtacos
How about offering a few beers to your buff, younger camp neighbor to help move the table for you? Pretty lost cost option and very neighborly campground etiquette...but no patent.
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08-01-2014, 09:37 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Trails West Campster 1970
Posts: 3,366
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I never move the table to get the table where I want it- I move it to get it out of where I don't want it. But usually I work around it as they are too hard to move.
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08-02-2014, 03:41 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Linda
Trailer: Burro 13'. 1982
Montana
Posts: 286
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The picnic tables I usually see are cement seats with wood tops...impossible to move!
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08-04-2014, 11:12 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Boler 1984
Posts: 2,938
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A table rail on the outside of your trailer allows you to move your regular inside table to the outside . That means you never rely on getting a decent campground shaky one. Also handy for roadside lunches when travelling. Just pop it and your cooler out at a roadside park for a quick bite, pack it back in and then away, away.
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