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Old 12-17-2015, 07:59 PM   #1
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My 1984 scamp needs help

Ok just got it. Frame and axle good thank goodness. Need some suggestions on a couple of repairs.

1. Small 6 X 6 soft spot underneath rear window on the floor, how to harden up...

2. How to apply and what caulking to use to fill seams on the wall before paint; trying to avoid seam tape...but may have to?

3. What paint works on interior walls?

4. Floor ( once soft spot repaired) needs laminate installed; TRICKS?

THANKS SO MUCH!
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Old 12-17-2015, 09:11 PM   #2
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The rear area of the floor should probably be replaced, not just "tricked over", if you will. If is mushy and stained, as it appears to be in the photo, you first need to find the source of the leak. Chances are good it is one of three things. I checked these when I had to replace a rear section of flooring very similar to what you show in the photo. The leak is coming from the rear window, or the spare tire mount. That water could also have gathered there from the water line coming around from the tank in left compartment heading to the sink. I checked all these things and could not find the source of the leak. Finally, I pulled back the fur and the insulation and found "tracking" or streak that water often leaves behind as a tell tale marking.

It was coming from a spot in the waistband, where the two halves of the shell are joined. Once that was repaired and tested and tested to hold back water, I proceeded to repair the flooring. I cut out any flooring that was suspect and put in new plywood. It wasn't all that bad of a job, really. I also sprayed a lot of mold killer treatment everywhere as well.

The insulation was sprayed with 3M spray glue, as was the fur and smoothed. You'd never know I was in there. It came out very well.
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Old 12-17-2015, 09:28 PM   #3
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Ok thanks will have a look for the leak entry. As for the wood replacement. Simply cut out and replace? Any resin or anything?
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Old 12-17-2015, 10:40 PM   #4
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The rear area of the floor should probably be replaced, not just "tricked over", if you will. If is mushy and stained, as it appears to be in the photo, you first need to find the source of the leak. Chances are good it is one of three things. I checked these when I had to replace a rear section of flooring very similar to what you show in the photo. The leak is coming from the rear window, or the spare tire mount. That water could also have gathered there from the water line coming around from the tank in left compartment heading to the sink. I checked all these things and could not find the source of the leak. Finally, I pulled back the fur and the insulation and found "tracking" or streak that water often leaves behind as a tell tale marking.
It was coming from a spot in the waistband, where the two halves of the shell are joined. Once that was repaired and tested and tested to hold back water, I proceeded to repair the flooring. I cut out any flooring that was suspect and put in new plywood. It wasn't all that bad of a job, really. I also sprayed a lot of mold killer treatment everywhere as well.
One more place in the rear would be where the tail light wires come through the shell.
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Old 12-18-2015, 08:00 AM   #5
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The picture shows a leak from the gap in the rear window seal.
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Old 12-18-2015, 08:28 AM   #6
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The best advice I could give someone, I think, is to excavate completely, looking for leaks. Verify everything, everywhere before rushing to paint, install new flooring etc.

Yes, check even where tail light wires pass through the fiberglass, anywhere there was an opening such a water fill, city water, power cords, refrigerator vents, etc. Check below all window openings for long neglected leaks.

Those dinette bases are simple and easy to remove. Just a few screws. With them out of the way, you now can peel back insulation layers and have a good look see. Test all areas with forceful water to check for leaks which are easier to spot when all you're looking at is the bare fiberglass shell. Check for black mold as well.

Do zero re-decorating until you are confident you're not just installing new stuff that will quickly get ruined. I don't like cover up approaches. I also do not like musty and perhaps even dangerous black mold either.

As to the sub-flooring, your mileage may vary. Some take OSB or plywood and coat it with resin. Others use marine grade plywood. These floors rot because of water coming from the top, not from road moisture coming up from the bottom, as a rule.
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With such a large stain on the back floor that's allot of water. I would pull the seat cabinets and check the water tank and lines to make sure they are not cracked or leaking. When most trailers are stored they are parked tongue high so water can puddle in the back.
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Old 12-18-2015, 12:09 PM   #8
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When I replace a floor section that doesn't have any support, I usually cut a piece of aluminum about 4 or more inches larger that the cut out area and attach that to the solid edges of the repair area, with lots of sealer, from under the trailer.


Then I cut a repair insert that is a tight fit in the cut-out, soak the edges with water and Gorilla Glue, and pop that into the hole, with a few screws through the patch into the aluminum to prevent it popping out when the glue expands (and it will)


Be sure to start cleaning off the expanded glue before it sets.
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Old 12-18-2015, 03:37 PM   #9
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For your interior walls Scamp sells the original covering as well as the insulation. I refuse to call it what many folks in this forum call it. Sounds like you have great advice on your floor issue. I do know that once that stuff goes soft there is no fix, just replace. Enjoy your renovation Frederick!
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Yaaay...I agree with you Crowwing...I also detest the use of the "rodent fur" as a name for the interior covering. However, I have no objection for the real name of "Marine Cloth" for the interior covering. (Yep, it is also used in boats)
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Hmmmm.... and all these years I thought that it was also called "Hull Liner". Hull liner must be the real name for "Rat Fur". LOLOLOL
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My 1984 scamp needs help

I take it as a term of endearment.

You may call it whatever you like- hull liner, marine headliner, or that other name- but I wouldn't trade mine for all the elephant hide... err... Ensolite... in Bolerland.

For what it's worth, though, I've never seen anything like its longish nap on any of the marine products sites I've searched. Maybe they used it on boats 30 years ago when Scamp first introduced it...
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Yaaay...I agree with you Crowwing...I also detest the use of the "rodent fur" as a name for the interior covering....
Rat Fur is a term of endearment. I remember Pete Dumbleton every time I hear it, since he coined it. Pete was the best person and a valued member here on FiberglassRV. He passed away a number of years ago.


So you newbies, now you know the rest of the story...
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Apparently the water tank is new so I'm guessing that was the issue. Nonetheless I will check all that was recommended. What kind of sealer to seal the tin on the underside ? As well could I not use pl400 construction adhesive on the wooden patch ?
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