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Old 08-09-2013, 10:41 AM   #15
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Went to the tire shop

Kal Tire does not do the mechanical work on the trailers - only the tires. The guy says they don't usually balance trailer tires either that its not necessary. I think I would want that done. He also said he recomends using a radial tire not the bias that I have. He thinks the ride is easier on the trailer than the stiffer ride with the bias. He sent me to another place in Three Hills (Big Foot) that mainly works on big trucks but does do trailers. They are booked up for three weeks as they are short staffed since it is harvest season here. That doesn't leave me much time to get any parts ordered in if they find anything serious. He says I might want to go into Calgary and have one of the RV places look at it that they have access to axles and other parts more quickly.

I am debating opening this can of worms up here or maybe waiting till I get back into the states to do it. I leave here early Sept and head for Idaho and I think I prefer to buy tires down there so I have some kind of warranty from someplace like Discount Tire. I wont be doing hardly any hauling this month - just living in the driveway! I think my next move will be to go to a weigh scale and find out what my actual weights are - over all and on each side if I can do it so I at least have that peice of the puzzle sorted out.

I'm thinking if I wait until I'm back over the border I can put my spare on where the worst (curb) tire is. It looks brand new - I'm guessing ithas never touched the road. I'd have the tire shop do it and check it for me. I did find the date on the bad tire, 3710 which I understand means the 37th week of 2010. Couldn't find the date on the other tire it wasn't in the same spot.
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Old 08-09-2013, 04:46 PM   #16
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I did find the date on the bad tire, 3710 which I understand means the 37th week of 2010. Couldn't find the date on the other tire it wasn't in the same spot.
The "DOT code" which includes that date is usually only moulded into one side of the tire, and the tires can be turned either way when mounted on the wheel, so it might be on the outer side of one tire and the inner side of another tire. If it is on the inner side, to see it you need to take the wheel off the trailer, or get under the trailer.
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Old 09-17-2013, 04:34 PM   #17
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Update on the tire resolution

Went to an RV place in Hayden Id that had an alignment machine. They checked out everything and found no problems with the axle, frame, bearings etc. They recommended going to a heavier duty 8 ply radial instead of a bias or 6 ply radial to make sure I was under the weight rating. I spoke with Kent at Scamp and he agreed with them so I now have Gladiator 8 ply radials on.

I have weighed the trailer several times now and the trailer loaded weighs about 3050 each time. I only found one scale that I could weigh each axle on and the driver side weighs about 100lbs more than the curb side where the worst wear was.

Just as a funny aside. I had to get the tires from Les Schwab because they were the only ones in town who had them in stock and I needed to be on the road. They gave me a written quote on the Gladiators and I came back the next day to put them on. They had me out in no time. About and hour later I was thinking I should check my invoice to make sure they balanced the tires and thy had invoiced me for Towmax 6ply's! I went out to see what was really on the trailer and they had put on a Dynaflex tire!!! I called them and went back and they fixed it all! This time I watched them balance and mount the tire and I read what was on the tire!! And the moral of this story? Never again will I not check my invoice and tires! (or just not tell on myself!)

We'll see how these tires do as I continue down the road.
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Old 09-17-2013, 07:40 PM   #18
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The tires are Carlisle ST205/75D/15 Load Range C 1820LB (825kg) side wall 4ply.
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I'm not sure what "side wall 4ply" is intended to indicate here: "4 ply rating" means Load Range C, and current radial tires would not have 4 actual plies in the side wall... maybe bias-ply tires do, but I suspect this is just the "ply rating".
Re-reading this after the update, I realize that I have an error in this previous post:
"4 ply rating" means Load Range B, so the tire marking probably did mean that these Load Range C bias-ply tires actually had 4 sidewall plies. Load Range C would be "6 ply rating", but not usually actual 6-ply construction.
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Old 09-17-2013, 08:57 PM   #19
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I had a similar problem with our Scamp 5er. When we bought our Scamp, it had been "lifted" so a pickup with higher side rails could pull it. Our truck has a lower bed and side rails, so we had it lowered and, at the same time, bought two new tires on 14" rims to replace the rather under-sized and over-loaded 13" wheels Scamp sold the trailer with.

Less than 10,000 miles later, one of the tires showed very significant wear on one outside edge, similar to what I saw in your picture, and needed to be replaced. Thinking our axle must somehow gotten bent, I crawled under the trailer to inspect it, and got a surprise. It looked like our axle had been re-installed at a slight, but still noticeable angle to the frame.

I went back under with a framing square to confirm what I thought I saw. It looked like one side was welded on 3/4" forward of the other. I checked again with string, measuring the distance from the hitch to the forward-most edge of the axle-frame connection on either side. 3/4".

I took the trailer back to the RV shop and asked them to fix their mistake. They also paid for a replacement tire . . . and my gas mileage went back up to where it had been before we had the axle work done. (I'd attributed the drop in MPG to driving a pickup truck with 150,000 miles on it.)
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Re-reading this after the update, I realize that I have an error in this previous post:
"4 ply rating" means Load Range B, so the tire marking probably did mean that these Load Range C bias-ply tires actually had 4 sidewall plies. Load Range C would be "6 ply rating", but not usually actual 6-ply construction.
Agreed.

Load range c is usually 6 ply rating, d is usually 8. I just went and looked at mine to be sure I wasn't off, I have st225/75-15, load range e on mine, 2830lb, 10 ply rating. If I packed light and balanced the trailer, I could almost get by with one tire…
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